Brutality of a different sort. How the jail system is used punish certain persons, often for profit.

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THIS IS Disturbing



And still SOME people have an issue grasping what SYSTEMIC means in systemic racism.
 

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Looks like this is gonna cost them, though.


In the process of scrolling down to sarcastically post in response to the OP that all matters of this type thing will be completely solved by massive civil suit payouts, I saw your post showing that, that is exactly what's happening.

Maybe cops should start carrying public funds checkbooks so they can complete this entire process in about an hour instead of months or years. They can just call into internal affairs during the arrest, give them a brief on the scenario, and within mintues receive the amount they need to write out the check for. Efficiency!
 

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In the process of scrolling down to sarcastically post in response to the OP that all matters of this type thing will be completely solved by massive civil suit payouts, I saw your post showing that, that is exactly what's happening.

Maybe cops should start carrying public funds checkbooks so they can complete this entire process in about an hour instead of months or years. They can just call into internal affairs during the arrest, give them a brief on the scenario, and within mintues receive the amount they need to write out the check for. Efficiency!
The problem of course is, that the police weren't really the sole problem. Which is why even though I thought at first to put this in the police brutality thread, I made a new thread. In this case, the police were a complimentary or additional issue. The true issue here was the system itself and a judge who used the system focused on one group to mete out some imaginary appropriate justice. The system helped the police should they decide to arrest someone, to the point of inventing charges out of whole cloth if it would help.

Here it was a judge that decided arresting children was some way to 'help' them, and keep a prison system seemingly well stocked with young bodies. After all who cares about the lives permanently affected, those jail cells are full, and it looks like the system is doing something.
 

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The problem of course is, that the police weren't really the sole problem. Which is why even though I thought at first to put this in the police brutality thread, I made a new thread. In this case, the police were a complimentary or additional issue. The true issue here was the system itself and a judge who used the system focused on one group to mete out some imaginary appropriate justice. The system helped the police should they decide to arrest someone, to the point of inventing charges out of whole cloth if it would help.

Here it was a judge that decided arresting children was some way to 'help' them, and keep a prison system seemingly well stocked with young bodies. After all who cares about the lives permanently affected, those jail cells are full, and it looks like the system is doing something.
The story was also a harsh indictment of the criminal “justice” system in Tennessee. Their “prosecutors” needn’t be lawyers… in fact, they only need a high school diploma (and a driver’s license…).

In the United States, it is typically the prosecutor’s job to review a police investigation and decide what charges, if any, to file. But Tennessee allows counties to hire judicial commissioners to fill this role. From issuing warrants to setting bail to conducting probable cause hearings, Rutherford County’s judicial commissioners can take on tasks that traditionally fall to judges or prosecutors — without needing the legal training of either.

County judges recommend people for the job. County commissioners appoint them.

Rutherford County opens the job to anyone with a Tennessee driver’s license and a high school diploma, supplemented by some college-level course work or vocational training and some office work.
WTF???? This judge would not have this power if not for the broken state system. Ridiculous.
 
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Surely the politicians from the fiscally responsible party must be all over this waste of tax money. Right? 🦗🦗
Nah, fiscal responsibility is just a euphemism for "upholding inequalities to ensure my resource advantage is passed on to my children".
 
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Surely the politicians from the fiscally responsible party must be all over this waste of tax money. Right? 🦗🦗
I believe for said politicians that falls under the term known as "the cost of doing business".

Since the people who often most benefit from "brutality bonds", are also the ones donating to said politicians.

Politicians who then worry more about the safety & security of businesses over people.

Making for a very tidy little circle.
 

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Germany has 1/10th the incarceration rate of America. They don’t have 10x the crime rate. Our system is extremely expensive, inefficient, and ineffective. It’s because our system doesn’t care at all about rehabilitation. The German system is all about rehabilitation.

 
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Germany has 1/10th the incarceration rate of America. They don’t have 10x the crime rate. Our system is extremely expensive, inefficient, and ineffective. It’s because our system doesn’t care at all about rehabilitation. The German system is all about rehabilitation.

It is considered a fact that rehabilitation is not possible beyond 10-15 years of incarceration. Source: friend, who happens to be a judge.
 

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It is considered a fact that rehabilitation is not possible beyond 10-15 years of incarceration. Source: friend, who happens to be a judge.
I heard a story about Americans going to study the system in Germany on the radio this week. The system is all about rehabilitation, and the Americans were shocked and knew that such a system would be extremely unpopular at home, where it’s more about being punitive than about rehabilitation.

When I saw the story of Virginians being angry that somebody was being let out of jail after FORTY years for a crime committed in his early 20s… it made me think of this.
 
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I heard a story about Americans going to study the system in Germany on the radio this week. The system is all about rehabilitation, and the Americans were shocked and knew that such a system would be extremely unpopular at home, where it’s more about being punitive than about rehabilitation.

When I saw the story of Virginians being angry that somebody was being let out of jail after FORTY years for a crime committed in his early 20s… it made me think of this.
There are major societal differences. If you take these European nation states you see a lot more homogeneous population of people that renders humanization of others sort of automatic and natural.

In the USA the diversity comes with a lot less empathy and valuation of human life (compared to Europe). The attitude towards guns objectively tells you all you need to know about the difference in these principles between the Old and New Western World.
 

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There are major societal differences. If you take these European nation states you see a lot more homogeneous population of people that renders humanization of others sort of automatic and natural.

In the USA the diversity comes with a lot less empathy and valuation of human life (compared to Europe). The attitude towards guns objectively tells you all you need to know about the difference in these principles between the Old and New Western World.
Western indeed. Stuck in the Wild West.
 
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