Did we really need a Fox News?

[Yoused]

the border crises, we hear so little about that anywhere else

Funny thing, that. I would imagine that Fox reporting on a border crisis that no one else is covering strongly suggests that Fox is manufacturing a border crisis and no one else is interested in covering a phantasm.

 

[SuperMatt]

Funny thing, that. I would imagine that Fox reporting on a border crisis that no one else is covering strongly suggests that Fox is manufacturing a border crisis and no one else is interested in covering a phantasm.

Just like the constant looping of one video of looting in Philadelphia instead of checking in on the protests in many cities periodically.

If you read about Ailes, he didn’t care about the actual news. He had an agenda or message for the day, and wanted everybody to push that agenda.

Fox had been #1 in cable news for a very long time, but they lost that title on January 6 and the days afterwards. Why? They played down a literal storming of the US Capitol, and people knew there was something going on, so they changed the channel to see what was really happening. Even the faithful Fox viewers figured out they were being lied to that day.

Fox News During the Jan. 6 Riots Was Even Worse Than You Remember

As the insurrectionist mob grew more violent, Fox News initially played it off as “peaceful” or invoked Black Lives Matter to downplay the severity of the attack.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[GermanSuplex]

I just saw Dr. Fauci has declared we are out of the pandemic phase in the U.S. Which is great. And if not for the Fox News-lead misinformation and hatred they spew, he’d probably have an 80+ percentage approval rating in times past. But because everyone is now an amateur internet expert on every topic, a sizable chunk of the population think he’s some “deep state” politician with ulterior motives.

That’s another thing that bothers me about conservatives- for a group that hates liberals tossing around the word “racist”, they always have a moniker and label for everything. “Deep state” is just meaningless and empty jargon to describe anyone they don’t like, or to fit their conspiracy plots. “Cancel culture”, “lock her up”, “let’s go Brandon”, “fake news”, “voter fraud”. They don’t even need proof, just a label.

Even ANTIFA and BLM, which exist in some fashion, are used solely to label the whole BLM movement, when only a tiny fraction of the protesters were criminals who used the activity around the protests to commit crime. Like the folks on January 6, but somehow they don’t use the same logic and label all Trump supporters or rally-goers as insurrectionists.

In fact, Fox won’t even label the insurrectionists as insurrectionists!

 

[Yoused]

I just saw Dr. Fauci has declared we are out of the pandemic phase in the U.S. Which is great. And if not for the Fox News-lead misinformation and hatred they spew, he’d probably have an 80+ percentage approval rating in times past. But because everyone is now an amateur internet expert on every topic, a sizable chunk of the population think he’s some “deep state” politician with ulterior motives.

Republicans Cheer As Congressional Candidate Demands Fauci’s Execution By Firing Squad

Oklahoma GOP Chair John Bennett's comments advocating violence against the top infectious disease expert earned him applause at a campaign event.

www.huffpost.com

I find it hard to fathom that some people honestly believe that 1A protects the right to threaten others. This is a case where constantly pushing the limits of Rights and Freedom is going to end up those limits contracting tighter than the loudmouths expected.

 

[Spike]

Here in Europe, Fox News doesn't exist. Fox isn't seen as news. We do get CNN, Euronews, Al Jazeera, and, of course, local (Portugal) news. I find Al Jazeera to be the best, really good in-depth reporting.

 

[Herdfan]

Here in Europe, Fox News doesn't exist. Fox isn't seen as news. We do get CNN, Euronews, Al Jazeera, and, of course, local (Portugal) news. I find Al Jazeera to be the best, really good in-depth reporting.

SkyNews?

 

[Edd]

SkyNews?

I brought this up here recently, because it was started by Murdoch and I'd never watched it. I've been watching it for a couple of months maybe and it does not resemble Fox in any way.

 

[Chew Toy McCoy]

Funny thing, that. I would imagine that Fox reporting on a border crisis that no one else is covering strongly suggests that Fox is manufacturing a border crisis and no one else is interested in covering a phantasm.

Similary I'm shocked to hear that defunding the police is still a high right-wing concern. There's about as much defunding the police as there was massive voter fraud. Hm, when I put it like that then I probably shouldn't be shocked.

 

[Edd]

Similary I'm shocked to hear that defunding the police is still a high right-wing concern. There's about as much defunding the police as there was massive voter fraud. Hm, when I put it like that then I probably shouldn't be shocked.

The fears they speak the loudest about tend to be conjured.

 

[Chew Toy McCoy]

I just saw Dr. Fauci has declared we are out of the pandemic phase in the U.S. Which is great. And if not for the Fox News-lead misinformation and hatred they spew, he’d probably have an 80+ percentage approval rating in times past. But because everyone is now an amateur internet expert on every topic, a sizable chunk of the population think he’s some “deep state” politician with ulterior motives.

That’s another thing that bothers me about conservatives- for a group that hates liberals tossing around the word “racist”, they always have a moniker and label for everything. “Deep state” is just meaningless and empty jargon to describe anyone they don’t like, or to fit their conspiracy plots. “Cancel culture”, “lock her up”, “let’s go Brandon”, “fake news”, “voter fraud”. They don’t even need proof, just a label.

Even ANTIFA and BLM, which exist in some fashion, are used solely to label the whole BLM movement, when only a tiny fraction of the protesters were criminals who used the activity around the protests to commit crime. Like the folks on January 6, but somehow they don’t use the same logic and label all Trump supporters or rally-goers as insurrectionists.

In fact, Fox won’t even label the insurrectionists as insurrectionists!

This possibly belongs in the thread about Democrats needing to start playing hardball, but I noticed how Fox and right-wing politicians and pundits label everything left of center “radical extremist/socialism” at every opportunity. They even freely toss it out as a deflection to anything they can’t answer “Look, I know the video appears to show me throttling a toddler, but the radical socialists are going to destroy America!”. Fine. Then how about the other side of the media start tossing out the “authoritarian fascists” at everything right of center instead of thinking they don’t exist if we don’t mention them, as if the rightwing nutters are Candy Man or Beetlejuice.

 

[GermanSuplex]

This possibly belongs in the thread about Democrats needing to start playing hardball, but I noticed how Fox and right-wing politicians and pundits label everything left of center “radical extremist/socialism” at every opportunity. They even freely toss it out as a deflection to anything they can’t answer “Look, I know the video appears to show me throttling a toddler, but the radical socialists are going to destroy America!”. Fine. Then how about the other side of the media start tossing out the “authoritarian fascists” at everything right of center instead of thinking they don’t exist if we don’t mention them, as if the rightwing nutters are Candy Man or Beetlejuice.

I just saw the first January 6 public hearings will take place on June 9. Republicans will cry this was a politically-motivated investigation (it wasn’t, and they decided not to have an independent one) and that it was done close to election time to gain votes (so what? The party of birtherism and “lock her up” whining about pre-election politics?).

I think it’s great for democrats:

-It’s getting much-needed facts and information about that day so the public can know the truth, and they’d be derelict not to investigate.

-They have a valid excuse of needing to finish because McCarthy has already said the committee will be disbanded if he takes control.

-It’s just an added bonus if it’s a dirty trick ahead of the midterms. It’s not, but let’s just grant the right that it is. Again, they’ve used dirtier tactics many times. Nothing will top “election fraud”.

The good thing about the right’s coverage, if anything, is that it’s predictable, and if I was on the left I’d embrace the outrage Fox will pretend to have at such hearings being close to Election Day.


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[Spike]

SkyNews?

We do get Sky News, for some reason I never watch it. I should check it out sometime.

 

[Yoused]

We do get Sky News, for some reason I never watch it. I should check it out sometime.

A quick glance over the Sky website looks relatively tame, though some of the subtleties of British politics still elude me. Perhaps the broadcast version of Sky is uglier, but the US Fox website is very garish and ugly. I guess Brits demand less overt rabble rousing, so Sly News is better about being less obvious.