How should the U.S. respond if China invades Taiwan?

[Hrafn]

What about the WH having to walk back about half of what he says. Especially on this topic.

Biden says U.S. willing to use force to defend Taiwan — prompting backlash from China

U.S. President Joe Biden on Monday said he would be willing to use force to defend Taiwan, prompting sharp criticism from China.

www.cnbc.com

This was then walked back by the WH:

Biden says US would respond 'militarily' if China attacked Taiwan, but White House insists there's no policy change

President Joe Biden said Monday that the United States would intervene militarily if China attempts to take Taiwan by force, a warning that appeared to deviate from the deliberate ambiguity traditionally held by Washington.

www.cnn.com

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[Herdfan]

WHATABOUTWHATABOUTWHATABOUT

Just because it is me that is saying it, doesn't mean it isn't true.

 

[AG_PhamD]

Just because it is me that is saying it, doesn't mean it isn't true.

I was told recently by the White House that America’s economy “in a better place than it has been historically”.

Here’s a picture from the briefing:

Pay no attention to the gaslighting taking place.

 

[SuperMatt]

What Biden said about Taiwan in the linked article is the same thing he said during the campaign.

Yes, the diplomats have a point in keeping our stance on the issue intentionally vague. No sense to antagonize China unnecessarily.

But I think there has never been much doubt that America (and other countries) would not stand back if China went to war with Taiwan.

 

[Alli]

Edit: Also, it isn't just me saying it now. Don Lemon is now publicly question it. And he probably has watched and listened to him speak more than us collectively.

So you, Don Lemon, and who else? (Remind me again who Don Lemon is.)

 

[DT]

What about the WH having to walk back about half of what he says. Especially on this topic.

That's not a cognitive issue, that's him "Telling it like it is ....", I figured people who supported the Orange Pansy would appreciate this take. Sure, like Matt pointed out, sometimes there's a touch of course correction if the President decides to be a little more bombastic (than policy might support).

I like it.

 

[DT]

(Remind me again who Don Lemon is.)

I think it's this guy ...

 

[Renzatic]

That lemon is the raddest dude to ever be rad.

 

[DT]

Yikes, searching for "lemon man" turned up some why-don't-I-have-safe-search-on results ...

 

[Herdfan]

So you, Don Lemon, and who else? (Remind me again who Don Lemon is.)

Probably one of the top 3 CNN anchors.

CNN Profiles - Don Lemon - Anchor - CNN

Don Lemon co-anchors <em>CNN This Morning</em> with Don Lemon, Poppy Harlow and Kaitlan Collins weekday mornings and serves as a correspondent across CNN/U.S. programming.

www.cnn.com

White House faces questions on Biden's mental fitness, 2024 plans - The Southern Maryland Chronicle

(The Center Square) – White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre dismissed concerns regarding President Joe Biden’s possible reelection bid. In an interview with CNN’s Don Lemon late Monday, Jean-Pierre responded to a question concerning Biden’s potential inability to run again in 2024...

southernmarylandchronicle.com

I am not going to get into Biden's mental fitness. Anyone that sees him speak without a teleprompter can make their own determination.

 

[SuperMatt]

Probably one of the top 3 CNN anchors.

CNN Profiles - Don Lemon - Anchor - CNN

Don Lemon co-anchors <em>CNN This Morning</em> with Don Lemon, Poppy Harlow and Kaitlan Collins weekday mornings and serves as a correspondent across CNN/U.S. programming.

www.cnn.com

White House faces questions on Biden's mental fitness, 2024 plans - The Southern Maryland Chronicle

(The Center Square) – White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre dismissed concerns regarding President Joe Biden’s possible reelection bid. In an interview with CNN’s Don Lemon late Monday, Jean-Pierre responded to a question concerning Biden’s potential inability to run again in 2024...

southernmarylandchronicle.com

I am not going to get into Biden's mental fitness. Anyone that sees him speak without a teleprompter can make their own determination.

You made a thread specifically about Biden’s mental fitness last year; you’re repeating the same talking points. Please take this over there and stick to Taiwan here. At least people can see these posts in context there.

Is Biden Really in Charge?

Seems a majority of voters don't think so. https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/biden_administration/who_s_in_charge_most_voters_don_t_think_it_s_biden Now I know some will hit back because of who the pollster is or because no one wants to believe they voted for a President...

talkedabout.com

 

[SuperMatt]

That lemon is the raddest dude to ever be rad.

He’s got a real zest for life.

 

[DT]

OK, that does it ...

 

[SuperMatt]

OK, that does it ...


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I can’t argue that a suspension would be undeserved…

 

[Renzatic]

OK, that does it ...


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You too, huh?

 

[Herdfan]

You made a thread specifically about Biden’s mental fitness last year; you’re repeating the same talking points. Please take this over there and stick to Taiwan here. At least people can see these posts in context there.

Is Biden Really in Charge?

Seems a majority of voters don't think so. https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/biden_administration/who_s_in_charge_most_voters_don_t_think_it_s_biden Now I know some will hit back because of who the pollster is or because no one wants to believe they voted for a President...

talkedabout.com

No!

It started as a comment on the WH dysfunction by someone else and how Biden says one thing and then the WH walks it back. And it was specifically about THIS topic. It got pushback, so I rebutted it with Don Lemon's questioning his fitness and part of that fitness was the WH continually having to walk back his words. Again, about the US position on Taiwan.

Don't like it, then get Eric to ban me. Otherwise, deal.

 

[SuperMatt]

An interesting article on the US - Taiwan - China issue:

Bob Doucette: Ukraine war emboldens Biden to warn China off Taiwan

Between mass shootings, inflation, gas prices and a host of other stories flooding the news cycle, a statement by President Joe Biden about Taiwan in May has all but disappeared

tulsaworld.com

On May 23, during his trip to the Far East, Biden was asked if the U.S. was willing to help Taiwan defend itself should China decide to invade what it regards as a rebel province.
He said yes, adding, “That’s the commitment we made.”
It made headlines, but it’s also not new. He said as much in November, and the U.S. has helped arm Taiwan for decades.
This illustrates a longstanding contradictory policy the U.S. has toward Taiwan. The U.S., like most of the world, does not officially recognize Taiwan as an independent country. We don’t have full diplomatic ties with the island nation, instead dealing with Taipei on a more unofficial basis.

The U.S. has more skin in the game, too. Taiwan is a world leader in the production of computer chips. Any disruption of that industry would create serious problems for American manufacturers and create even more supply chain chaos – something not lost on Lucas, who has been calling for more onshoring of technology manufacturing.
For Biden, it’s a diplomatic gamble. The U.S. has substantial military assets in the western Pacific. The Taiwanese, like the Ukrainians, would likely be highly motivated to defend their homeland. And the Chinese abhor anything that challenges the image of control and competency they like to project.