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The president pro tempore used the word acquit when announcing the verdict…
Ilhan Omar to introduce articles of impeachment
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It was not always so. Hopefully this version of the Republican party will fade into oblivion soon. And to be clear, I’m not saying that both parties would protect their own no matter what. We saw with Al Franken that the Democrats hold their principles above party loyalty. It is specifically the GOP that will defend one of their members no matter what the crime.
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Bill Cassidy is already being censured by the Louisiana state party for his guilty vote. Unanimously, too.
Punishing him for doing the right thing—that says a lot more about them than it does about Cassidy.
Punishing him for doing the right thing—that says a lot more about them than it does about Cassidy.
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All these people being censured by their party should switch parties. They hold the seat, not their party. They could become independents at least.
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We are witnessing the destruction of the Republican party, which for those on the left should be "Yay!" but it's still disturbing. And if we're going to be honest there should be another party to balance things out.
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Me, I'm just waiting for the day when we see "the Donald" being led out and escorted from his home or some building in the classic "perp walk," handcuffed and being taken straight to a jail for booking..... And later, after he has lost his case(s) at trial, being booked into prison to serve his term, not-so-stylishly attired in an orange jumpsuit or whatever the inmates wear these days..... That day can't come soon enough. Probably they wouldn't be able to put him into Gen Pop, given his history and that other inmates might not be terribly fond of him.....
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I guess Mitch basically voted "Not Guilty With An Asterisk".
His own legacy will now carry at least one asterisk for voting one way and then excoriating Trump's behavior (yet again) not even an hour later. His needle threading act is getting really old.
I've seen the Senate do some stupid things in 60 years of watching them, but this will get more than a footnote in history. I hope the Republic survives to let historians feel free to write it all up properly after the dust settles.
And I hope the dust doesn't settle until after an independent commission looks at details of how this all came to happen, and after Trump himself faces some criminal charges as a private citizen. His behavior after the election, leading up to and during the violent Capitol incursion -- precisely when the Congress was obliged to meet in joint session with the VP presiding to certify Biden's victory-- was not coincidental or whimsical. And he has yet to issue a believable renunciation of what happened on January 6th. Still "loves" his followers...
How the RNC can still allow Trump to carry the GOP's banner forward after the way he behaved is inexplicable, except as an admission they only care to retain all of his followers as potential 2022 voters. What a terrible joke. A lot of those arrested at the Capitol turned out not even to be voters anyway per CNN who had looked into their voting records. And hundreds of thousands of registered Republicans have already changed their registrations, leaving the GOP after the January 6th attack on the Capitol.
His own legacy will now carry at least one asterisk for voting one way and then excoriating Trump's behavior (yet again) not even an hour later. His needle threading act is getting really old.
I've seen the Senate do some stupid things in 60 years of watching them, but this will get more than a footnote in history. I hope the Republic survives to let historians feel free to write it all up properly after the dust settles.
And I hope the dust doesn't settle until after an independent commission looks at details of how this all came to happen, and after Trump himself faces some criminal charges as a private citizen. His behavior after the election, leading up to and during the violent Capitol incursion -- precisely when the Congress was obliged to meet in joint session with the VP presiding to certify Biden's victory-- was not coincidental or whimsical. And he has yet to issue a believable renunciation of what happened on January 6th. Still "loves" his followers...
How the RNC can still allow Trump to carry the GOP's banner forward after the way he behaved is inexplicable, except as an admission they only care to retain all of his followers as potential 2022 voters. What a terrible joke. A lot of those arrested at the Capitol turned out not even to be voters anyway per CNN who had looked into their voting records. And hundreds of thousands of registered Republicans have already changed their registrations, leaving the GOP after the January 6th attack on the Capitol.
Kool Aid is a big seller in La. Disgusting, the idea of censuring because of doing the right thing.
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I find it hilarious. It means they do like to keep people accountable...just not the ones we want reprimanded..Kool Aid is a big seller in La. Disgusting, the idea of censuring because of doing the right thing.
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Oh, yes. Absolutely.
I couldn't agree more with you; a heartfelt and profound amen to this post. Well said.
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This is what Republicans have celebrated over the last 4 years...
2016 Trump lost by
2.87 million votes
2020 Trump lost by
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Impeachment for insurrection
Guilty 57
Not Guilty 43
We shouldn't be blaming Republicans, we should be reforming the system.
2016 Trump lost by
2.87 million votes
2020 Trump lost by
7+ million votes
Impeachment for insurrection
Guilty 57
Not Guilty 43
We shouldn't be blaming Republicans, we should be reforming the system.
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The split electorate system would fix things, because it would prevent candidates from taking a dump on parts of the country considered unlikely to vote for them. It would also be a lot more fair. It's insane that an election of 7M difference (~4%) in popular vote gets decided by 0.02% of the votes. Thats a ≥200x multiplier in vote value in some battle ground states. It would also add an extra layer of accountability to administrations.
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Absolutely! McConnell doesn’t get to delay Trump’s trial and then call Trump out on it as if Mitch is arguing from some sort of moral high ground. Fuck you, Yertel!
Mitch is having it both ways. He knows Trump should suffer consequences but he’s not going to personally pull the levers to make it happen.
He amazes me at this point. He lacks looks and charm but thrives in the business of politics.
He amazes me at this point. He lacks looks and charm but thrives in the business of politics.
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He's trying to save face and mitigate the blow from trumpists concurrently. I think it's a miscalculation on his end. His attempt to avoid being "fatally" alienated by one group, will result in losing respect from both. He's also not young enough to ever have enough time to recover from this. This is his legacy.
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That's my issue with the GOP's philosophy in general. Making it your mission to prove government doesn't work is along the same line of denying climate change.
1. It's a universal method for criticizing your political opponents in power
2. It's a universal method for denying culpability when shit happens when you're in power
3. The actual fall out will be dealt with by those who don't share these values, so no worries about having to work extra hard.
Ultimately, this is my interpretation of superior economic numbers under Dem administrations. On the flip side, I could make the argument that the GOP's advocating for small government and conscious spending works well in opposition as a check and balance. But the minimum requirement of such is to pass a certain sanity threshold, which seems to be a systemic GOP issue.
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