Marjorie Taylor Green: What in the ever loving fuck is wrong with her?

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WTF is an "emasculated" road, anyways?

By their standards women being more than second class citizens and subservient to men is emasculating. Pick the biggest loser on the planet and all women should be considered beneath that guy. Of course this is ironic coming out of the mouth of transgender pro wrestler MTG. I’m fairly confident she pees standing up.
 

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WTF is an "emasculated" road, anyways?

Its amazing how Trump has totally scrambled the brains of his followers. Mayor Pete and John McCain are not real heroes. Or men. Donald Trump - painted in orange, caked in makeup and topped with hairspray - they view as some macho, mercenary fighter.

Their insults are so thinly-veiled that its almost aggravating at this point, and you wish they'd just use the slurs they want to, so then we could at least . This is a game the right has been playing for a long time... the "plausible deniability" game. As long as you find another way of saying (emasculate) what you really want to say (lol, he's gay), then you can later deny you meant exactly what it is you meant to say.
Wasn't the quote “Democrats like Pete Buttigieg want to emasculate the way we drive and force all of you to rely on electric vehicles.”

To which my son who came out last year told me he never "drives straight". I guess it's an old joke in the gay community that has been revived this weekend, because of MTG.
 

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Marjorie Taylor Greene Claims She's A Jan. 6 'Victim' During Wild Debate​

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) on Sunday claimed she’s a victim of the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol carried out by supporters of Donald Trump attempting to overturn the election results.
Greene, a conspiracy theorist who has spoken at a white nationalist event, has sympathized with the rioters. She’s called those arrested “political prisoners,” and visited some in what she called the “patriots wing” of the District of Columbia Jail.
 

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Marjorie Taylor Greene Claims She's A Jan. 6 'Victim' During Wild Debate​

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) on Sunday claimed she’s a victim of the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol carried out by supporters of Donald Trump attempting to overturn the election results.
Greene, a conspiracy theorist who has spoken at a white nationalist event, has sympathized with the rioters. She’s called those arrested “political prisoners,” and visited some in what she called the “patriots wing” of the District of Columbia Jail.
How can she be both a victim and a supporter of the rioters? I wish Flowers followed up with that question. Of course he has no shot, because her constituents are just knuckle draggers (not all of them but most).
 

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My favorite was when she announced there was a lot of election fraud and her husband has proof. I figure it’s not proof against the Dems and her husband is holding on to it to use against her in their upcoming divorce.
 

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Hey, @Eric, can we please change the verb in this thread title to "isn't"?


… Greene tried to make a show of herself standing up for Confederate soldiers and “our nation’s history” on Tuesday night (when she) visited the Wilder Brigade Monument in Georgia to claim that the memorial recognizes “Confederate soldiers.” … the monument actually pays tribute to Union troops that battled the Confederates.
 

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Wharrgarbl:
You know what they did after January 6, Steve? They stopped donating. All the lobbyists, all the big corporations stopped donating to a whole bunch of my Republican colleagues that they used to donate to. They said: 'Oh no, we can't support you because of the big lie,' or whatever they want to call it.

There is going to be investigations coming. And there should be. There definitely should be, because the way corporations have conducted themselves, I've always called it corporate communism.
 

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Despite Trumpism being a common thread for big losers in the midterms and Trump getting a majority of Republican donations and keeping almost all of it for himself, she blames….McConnell and Graham. :ROFLMAO:
 

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Despite Trumpism being a common thread for big losers in the midterms and Trump getting a majority of Republican donations and keeping almost all of it for himself, she blames….McConnell and Graham. :ROFLMAO:

The 8th and 9th wonder of the world is how MJT was elected and continues to maintain her position.

I suspect the tides are turning on Trump’s donations. It sounds like a lot of the top GOP donors are jumping ship. Even if they preferred Trump over someone like DeSantis, why bet or a horse that is carrying all the Trump legal baggage and for all we know may be indicted by 2024.
 

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The 8th and 9th wonder of the world is how MJT was elected and continues to maintain her position.

I suspect the tides are turning on Trump’s donations. It sounds like a lot of the top GOP donors are jumping ship. Even if they preferred Trump over someone like DeSantis, why bet or a horse that is carrying all the Trump legal baggage and for all we know may be indicted by 2024.

I take some small satisfaction in knowing that in the field of playing all sides in big political donations they are flushing their money down the toilet with Trump and they know it…but still, just in case.
 

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Yeah well the Republicans' Trump-induced losses are putting up some flashing amber signs for the GOP regarding the outsized role the House Freedom Caucus and Republican Study Committee have played in recent years. Turns out there are more moderates than far righties among the GOP side of the House after all, and that they did better than some of the flaming right wing challengers in the most recent general election. Oops. Yeah.

The House is the one remaining arena the Rs will have control of (by a narrow margin) going forward, so the moderates are going to have to remind the more extreme reps like MTG that governance is something the swing voters in particular are signaling they prefer to both obstructionism and and circus acts.

It's finally dawning on the Rs that in fact they need to capture more swing voters. Yeah. Imagine! Had the Rs done so -- as would be usual in a midterm election during a time of inflation when a D is in the White House-- then the 2022 midterms would have swept in 30, maybe 60 additional Republicans.

Instead, Kevin McCarthy, assuming he can line up enough support for his speakership has a handful of margin --about the same as Nancy Pelosi had-- only Kevin's fractious members are louder and more disruptive than were the Progressives pressuring Pelosi to move left.

McCarthy's problem is that the extremists in his caucus only have one note: disrupt, disrupt, disrupt. He needs to govern in the upcoming term, which will mean working across the aisle.

He needs to quell the "RINO RINO" catcalls against the Rs in the House who "get caught" trying to sponsor bipartisan legislation... and he will have to work with Democrats to prevent shutdown of the government over extremists' attempts to block raising the debt ceiling... yet here even in advance of the start of the new session, we have the spectacle of people like Taylor Greene threatening to make trouble if she doesn't get whatever she wants in the way of concessions to ensure her vote for McCarthy as the new Speaker of the House. It could get messy. But Washington DC is nothing if not responsive to the will of the people in the end. The midterms spoke loudly, and extremism is losing favor.

A narrow GOP majority is forcing moderates to find their voice (WaPo, paywall removed)


Rep. Brian Fitzpatrick (R-Pa.) will never forget his first meeting with House GOP leaders shortly after winning his seat in 2016, a year when voters handed Republicans the White House and continued control of Congress.

He recalls bluntly telling Republican leaders, including then-Speaker Paul D. Ryan (Wis.), that having all levers of power in Washington came with immense responsibility that hinged on a specific decision.

You can take the high road and do what we don’t need to be doing right now, but what we should be doing, which is reaching across the aisle and building two-party solutions — or we can continue down the erroneous path of single-party solutions,” Fitzpatrick recalled. “At some point, somebody’s got to change that trend.”

His warning was not heeded, and as he predicted, the problem grew “exponentially worse.”

The GOP’s razor-thin majority — which will stand at four or five seats once all races are called — has given the more moderate members of the conference a mandate to find a voice equally as powerful as, if not more influential than, the most conservative allies of former president Donald Trump in their ranks, who many consider grandstanders over legislators.

“I think we have to flex our muscles a little bit more and say, ‘We’re going to govern America,’” said Rep. Don Bacon (Neb.), a Republican in a swing district who won another term in November. “There’s a small number that want their way or the highway. Well, that’s how we fail. We can’t let 2 percent or 3 percent drive the whole Congress.

By the numbers, more moderate and governance-minded Republicans outrank the roughly 30 members of the House Freedom Caucus and far-right flank, which includes members who are staunch Trump allies who reject establishment leadership and how they govern the House. The GOP Governance Group and Main Street Caucus are each made up of about 50 of the same Republicans who represent swing districts, are willing to work across the aisle and want to ensure the party governs.

But the extremes within the Republican ranks have expanded since the party last had the House majority, a reality that has empowered a handful of Freedom Caucus members to demand concessions in exchange for their support. They have been aggressively lobbying Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), who is working to appease the group so that he can clinch the 218 votes needed to officially be elected speaker Jan. 3.

The governance-focused members hope their colleagues remember they share common goals even though the negotiating process may get tricky — a similar dynamic that played out with House Democrats this term when they had a similarly slim majority.

But if their more-far-right colleagues do not get onboard with the party’s stated agenda, some Republicans have said they are not afraid to reach across the aisle and find Democrats who support raising the debt ceiling, funding the government and other measured priorities.

“Your goal is to hit a home run, but you’re going to hit singles periodically. That’s what our country was designed to do,” Bacon said. “We have to be willing to hit singles, work with our Democratic colleagues and find areas where we agree on. Otherwise, we fail.”

Ms. Taylor Greene is likely to meet her match and then some in the coming session of Congress. The Rs do actually know what they have to do to set up for 2024 and it's not just about Trump or DeSantis. It's about what the voters said in 2022. "Shut up and govern."
 

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Yeah well the Republicans' Trump-induced losses are putting up some flashing amber signs for the GOP regarding the outsized role the House Freedom Caucus and Republican Study Committee have played in recent years. Turns out there are more moderates than far righties among the GOP side of the House after all, and that they did better than some of the flaming right wing challengers in the most recent general election. Oops. Yeah.

The House is the one remaining arena the Rs will have control of (by a narrow margin) going forward, so the moderates are going to have to remind the more extreme reps like MTG that governance is something the swing voters in particular are signaling they prefer to both obstructionism and and circus acts.

It's finally dawning on the Rs that in fact they need to capture more swing voters. Yeah. Imagine! Had the Rs done so -- as would be usual in a midterm election during a time of inflation when a D is in the White House-- then the 2022 midterms would have swept in 30, maybe 60 additional Republicans.

Instead, Kevin McCarthy, assuming he can line up enough support for his speakership has a handful of margin --about the same as Nancy Pelosi had-- only Kevin's fractious members are louder and more disruptive than were the Progressives pressuring Pelosi to move left.

McCarthy's problem is that the extremists in his caucus only have one note: disrupt, disrupt, disrupt. He needs to govern in the upcoming term, which will mean working across the aisle.

He needs to quell the "RINO RINO" catcalls against the Rs in the House who "get caught" trying to sponsor bipartisan legislation... and he will have to work with Democrats to prevent shutdown of the government over extremists' attempts to block raising the debt ceiling... yet here even in advance of the start of the new session, we have the spectacle of people like Taylor Greene threatening to make trouble if she doesn't get whatever she wants in the way of concessions to ensure her vote for McCarthy as the new Speaker of the House. It could get messy. But Washington DC is nothing if not responsive to the will of the people in the end. The midterms spoke loudly, and extremism is losing favor.

A narrow GOP majority is forcing moderates to find their voice (WaPo, paywall removed)










Ms. Taylor Greene is likely to meet her match and then some in the coming session of Congress. The Rs do actually know what they have to do to set up for 2024 and it's not just about Trump or DeSantis. It's about what the voters said in 2022. "Shut up and govern."


Good luck to the GOP trying to get the sedition caucus to pump the brakes on their clown car. There's no doubt they feel their predecessor the tea party got them exactly what they wanted, and unlike the progressives (as if they are equal or have equal control on the left), if they don't get their way they are willing to flush the entire country down the toilet.
 

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Good luck to the GOP trying to get the sedition caucus to pump the brakes on their clown car. There's no doubt they feel their predecessor the tea party got them exactly what they wanted, and unlike the progressives (as if they are equal or have equal control on the left), if they don't get their way they are willing to flush the entire country down the toilet.

That's just it though: McConnell was never willing to flush the country down the toilet when it came to stuff like the debt limit... Schumer certainly isn't. Pelosi, no, of course not.

Now Kevin McCarthy wants to be speaker so badly that he's making deals with individual MAGA reps trying to lock down their support for his speakership.


But even making those deals is not going to help him when the moderates decide to cross the aisle and work with the Dems on legislation that can be viewed as critical to the nation. Reading the whole room post-midterms, I'd say the moderate Rs are willing to go there. The voters told them to go there by re-electing them instead of swelling the ranks of MAGA reps by dozens or scores in November of 2022.

And the Ds control the Senate outright next session, albeit by one vote. However that's an important vote as the session begins, since they will no longer have to negotiate with Rs regarding who gets to be a committee head v ranking member of assorted committees as they did when the Senate was tied. Bottom line in 2023 the House although led by the Rs will have to cooperate with Dems if it wants to get legislation across the finish line, and more of its GOP members will need that cooperation to occur because moderates' wins depended on more indie votes than in 2020.

MTG was re-elected by her solid red constituency in 2022. She only won 170k votes in a turnout of 208k in a total population of 737k. In 2020 she was a first term winner and got 229k votes.

So her 2022 vote amounts to a 25% decrease in support, and if she were a rational person, she could attribute that drop mostly to the fact that midterm turnout is usually lower than in presidential election years. This despite some likely aversion of a portion of the electorate to some of the unconventional behavior Ms. Greene has not only engaged in but embraced, apparently as part of her appeal to her core supporters.

Nonetheless the percentage of the actual turnout she won in 2020 and 2022 tell a different story.

In 2020 she won 75% of the vote running against a Dem opponent who withdrew from the race after a campaign of only 31 days, but whose name had remained on the ballot.​

In 2022 she won 66% of the vote against a Dem opponent who ran an actual campaign. She underperformed two other Georgia ballot Republicans, governor Kemp and yeah, Herschel Walker.​

Yet somehow to Marjorie Taylor Greene, all this translates to her notion that she is a very special winner in the pantheon of special winners on the far right of the GOP's ranks in the House of Representatives. About the only thing that might make her special to her consituents this time around is that she'll actually get to represent them on some committees... having been banished from them in the current term because of some of her beyond-the-pale bigotry or for conspiracy theory related remarks.

But of course MTG is not the only wannabe driver of the clown cars in the House. Others are also jockeying for favor from McCarthy right now in exchange for supporting his speakership. He should have a caution while he cuts these deals. Even without such blatant favor trading on matters like rules and committee appointments, both Paul Ryan and John Boehner (his predecessors and savvier than McCarthy) eventually stepped down due to inability to herd Republican cats when the chips were down for the country and working across the aisle was necessary but the circus clowns were still holding up STOP signs. Ironically, McCarthy's rise to leadership began when Boehner stepped down due to hassles with the far right of the GOP. Now he faces a similar problem when moderates again have become the choice of the people over extremists in the House.
 
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the stupid of this woman still amazes me. well if you succeeded whatever that would have meant you would be excited as a traitor so there is that. get rid of two white supremicists in one blow.
“I want to tell you something. If Steve Bannon and I had organized that, we would have won. Not to mention, we would’ve been armed,” she said of the Jan. 6, 2021, attempt by supporters of then-President Donald Trump to overturn the 2020 election, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center and the New York Post.

Marjorie Taylor Greene Says 'We Would've Won' If She Organized The Jan. 6 Attack​


 
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