Thomas Veil
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Holy crap! I hope this is true.
means *little* unfortunately w/o understanding duration of effect...Holy crap! I hope this is true.
Covid-19 vaccine 90 percent effective in first analysis, Pfizer says
"Today is a great day for science and humanity," Albert Bourla, Pfizer's chairman and chief executive, said in a statement.
Agree. RN the outpatient turnaround time for a test seems to be 6-8H. Not bad if it's a question of return to work. It's not good enough if the question is immediate access to a building or venue.I still feel they need rapid testing first.
100% agree.I still feel they need rapid testing first.
Like masks and social distancing?Had they had additional safety measures in place, this would not have been a major outbreak, but well..they were unjustifiably confident as this administration had been throughout.
Agree. RN the outpatient turnaround time for a test seems to be 6-8H. Not bad if it's a question of return to work. It's not good enough if the question is immediate access to a building or venue.
I'd also say that the October WH outbreak is the indicator how rapid testing can fail. I'm fairly certain that what happened is that after months of this system working really well, they had gotten breached by a false negative test result. Had they had additional safety measures in place, this would not have been a major outbreak, but well..they were unjustifiably confident as this administration had been throughout.
There are so many problems with yesterday's announcement. For example, a Pharma company will spin the results in the most favorable light, because that's their direct financial interest. The relevant info is in the details, that includes what Newsome said, availability, number of shots, storage requirements, distribution pathways, and duration of immunity. Everybody were rolling their eyes about Trump claiming vaccine by election. Best case scenario is Phase III data by February, IMHO. So we'll remain super vulnerable for the COVID-20 season. This is why Redfield advocated for masks.CA governor Newsom posted today that best case scenario this vaccine probably wouldn't be available to the general public until April.
But just this news as it stands today will probably already cause the nation's idiots to burn their masks and go about their lives as if the virus never happened.
There are so many problems with yesterday's announcement. For example, a Pharma company will spin the results in the most favorable light, because that's their direct financial interest. The relevant info is in the details, that includes what Newsome said, availability, number of shots, storage requirements, distribution pathways, and duration of immunity. Everybody were rolling their eyes about Trump claiming vaccine by election. Best case scenario is Phase III data by February, IMHO. So we'll remain super vulnerable for the COVID-20 season. This is why Redfield advocated for masks.
Pfizer's CEO stated they didn't ask for external funding to keep their independence. It's pretty hilarious how Pence jumped to take credit BTW just to be smacked in the face with a rebuttal from Pfizer. It's ironic that the pro market Trump/Pence duo think enterprises cannot work without the government pushing themI also think it’s absurd to give any politician credit for a successful vaccine, as if the pharmaceutical industry was just going to sit on their ass until a politician said go. If nothing else this a huge once in a lifetime financial opportunity and nothing motivates in this country more than windfall profits.
I believe that would be considered communism. Maybe we should run that by Trump’s supporters. So either you’re supporting a communist or a liar. Take some time to decide which.Pfizer's CEO stated they didn't ask for external funding to keep their independence. It's pretty hilarious how Pence jumped to take credit BTW just to be smacked in the face with a rebuttal from Pfizer. It's ironic that the pro market Trump/Pence duo think enterprises cannot work without the government pushing them
Well, I'm not sure that's an apt comparison. I appreciate and share your respect for caution, but a better analogy would be:
If you knew your plane was going to crash sooner or later, would you jump out with a parachute that was 90% effective?
I think the right question is, would you be more willing to hop behind the wheel if someone told you the seat belt is 90% effective in keeping you unscathed in case of a crash?Question: Would you jump out of a plane with a parachute if I told you it was 90% effective? I think not!
Good question!Question: Would you jump out of a plane with a parachute if I told you it was 90% effective? I think not!
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