Why do conservatives hate AOC?

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Seriously, I've heard and read a lot of crap about Ocasio-Cortez, but usually it boils down to how stupid she is, which really blows my mind. I can see so many reasons a conservative could hate her but she's being dumb? WTF. She cuts like a razor blade:


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PearsonX said:
Seriously, I've heard and read a lot of crap about Ocasio-Cortez, but usually it boils down to how stupid she is, which really blows my mind. I can see so many reasons a conservative could hate her but she's being dumb? WTF. She cuts like a razor blade:


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They hate her - firstly - because she is a woman, secondly, because she is a woman of colour, and thirdly, above all, because she is a fiercely intelligent, accomplished and articulate woman of colour.
 
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AOC also reminds many of them how out of step they are. Her Twitter game is usually on fire. Her appearance on Twitch for the heck of it ( she's a bit of a casual gamer ) with Hasan Abi ( if you can't tell by the name, would make conservative heads explode ) pulled impressive numbers. She's the future, she motivates younger voters, which many of those haters would rather dismiss until they reach middle age.

Lastly, I still insist it's a monster they created ( via Faux News ) to mock, and it grew successful despite their intentions.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1321918043900006401
 
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They hate her - firstly - because she is a woman, secondly, because she is a woman of colour, and thirdly, above all, because she is a fiercely intelligent, accomplished and articulate woman of colour.
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The irony is that we had a babysitter who was a hardcore libertarian and she hated AOC too, and kept on telling me how stupid she was; before that I only thought this hate is a culmination of male misogyny.

But it's objectively amazing. People insult her education? She went to Boston University FFS!
People insult her intelligence? She murders these old men with words as a pastime.
On a scale she counts as stupid, where would those stand who are outwitted and humiliated by her?

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AOC also reminds many of them how out of step they are. Her Twitter game is usually on fire. Her appearance on Twitch for the heck of it ( she's a bit of a casual gamer ) with Hasan Abi ( if you can't tell by the name, would make conservative heads explode ) pulled impressive numbers. She's the future, she motivates younger voters, which many of those haters would rather dismiss until they reach middle age.

Lastly, I still insist it's a monster they created ( via Faux News ) to mock, and it grew successful despite their intentions.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1321918043900006401
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I know nothing of Twitch and gaming in the 21st century, but my wife (then girlfriend) used to join our LAN parties. Anytime she delivered a kill on one of my hypermasculine-only-by-my-own-perception buddies in CounterStrike, the guy would throw a fit and we would have to pause the game because all of us are rolling on the floor (except for him).
 
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It's stuff like this, where the concern isn't about enriching any one person, that seems to set some off. Or to quote an obsessively repetitive individual elsewhere, "radical leftists/liberals", which boggles the mind because improving things for others, helps others. Including businesses.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1322163888314556416

Because what do these obsessively selfish individuals screaming "radical" thinks happens when an area improves? Clue, ask anyone who's improved their neighborhood what 'gentrify' means. You improve areas with better housing & infrastructure, you attract small business, you create employment, which is a thing I thought cons wanted. Evidently though, it seems to always depend on WHO is helped & improved, that determines where improvement is allowed & desired.

I can never understand how some people who worship the image of this country being about individualism, so eagerly embrace wanting monolithic business entities to get all the tax breaks & not want more opportunities for small businesses. Small businesses that will thrive in more successful neighborhoods & counties. Hoping to improve people's lives with better housing & resources, tossed in with being more effective with the environment should not be 'radical'.

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I know nothing of Twitch and gaming in the 21st century, but my wife (then girlfriend) used to join our LAN parties. Anytime she delivered a kill on one of my hypermasculine-only-by-my-own-perception buddies in CounterStrike, the guy would throw a fit and we would have to pause the game because all of us are rolling on the floor (except for him).
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For clarification I said casual gamer for easier understanding, but I believe she played League of Legends which isn't completely for casuals. I say it that way as she obsessively wasn't playing 4 - 8 hours a day that "l33t gamers" demand of anyone to have any cred, let alone female gamers.

It's the fact that she knows Twitch & it's reach that sets her apart from her critics who would likely look at it derisively unless they saw a personal profit incentive. Like imagine if a certain mewling congressional critter in SC had a clue about anyone but himself...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1321281118935670786
 
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PearsonX said:
Seriously, I've heard and read a lot of crap about Ocasio-Cortez, but usually it boils down to how stupid she is, which really blows my mind. I can see so many reasons a conservative could hate her but she's being dumb? WTF. She cuts like a razor blade:


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This has been the Republican game since Slimey Newt when it was no longer good enough to say you disagree with the opposition’s position, they were mistaken. Now it is character assassination and you are the spawn of the Devil.

The problem for them is it can be very transparent if you are not a Koolaid drinker. The real issue is how this tactic was/is perceived as effective but has turned politics in the US into divisive, destructive idealogical combat frequently, primarily relying on lies. That is the overall crux of the issue for the GOP, when they like Donny, (GOP not quite as bat shit crazy, but still lies) decided that lieing was their path to victory. Think of the boy who cried wolf as a code to live by.

Everytime I listen to her at a Congressional hearing, she is slicing and dicing, and most importantly it’s based on intelligence and not hypocritical, partisan lies.
 
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Huntn said:
This has been the Republican game since Slimey Newt when it was no longer good enough to say you disagree with the opposition’s position, they were mistaken. Now it is character assassination and you are the spawn of the Devil.
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When my son was little, somewhere around 2-3 grade, he came home from school one day acting very upset. We asked him what was wrong and he said “they called me a bad name at school.” We pressed him to tell us what it was. No answer. Finally we started guessing. Bastard? No. Sonofabitch? No. Motherfucker? No. Couldn’t take it any longer. Please, David, tell us what they said! At this point he started to grin a little and barely kept from laughing he said “they called me Newt Gingrich.” I love my son.
 
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PearsonX said:
The irony is that we had a babysitter who was a hardcore libertarian and she hated AOC too, and kept on telling me how stupid she was; before that I only thought this hate is a culmination of male misogyny.

But it's objectively amazing. People insult her education? She went to Boston University FFS!
People insult her intelligence? She murders these old men with words as a pastime.
On a scale she counts as stupid, where would those stand who are outwitted and humiliated by her?


I know nothing of Twitch and gaming in the 21st century, but my wife (then girlfriend) used to join our LAN parties. Anytime she delivered a kill on one of my hypermasculine-only-by-my-own-perception buddies in CounterStrike, the guy would throw a fit and we would have to pause the game because all of us are rolling on the floor (except for him).
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Re your babysitter, I'd argue a case of internalised misogyny, plus a discommoded sense of unsettled unease (who can a white woman who has already internalised misogyny look down on - in a way that certain sections of her society will readily recognise and applaud, - but a black woman?)

And, if she was a woman of colour, well, there is a lot to unpack, but teaching those who have been historically oppressed, to take on - and internalise - the shame and self-hatred of institutional and societal disapproval and dislike and discrimination, is an excellent way of enforcing and perpetuating such cycles of pain, and endless petty humiliation on those already doubly discriminated against, and oppressed.

As for racist (and sexist) white men, I suspect that she - by her very existence (female, fearless, formidable, fiercely intelligent, accomplished, ambitious, articulate - and worse, a woman of colour, someone who by definition is supposed to be lesser by every measurable criterion) - threatens them to their very core, in ways they can barely begin to adumbrate, let alone recognise, or acknowledge.
 
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PearsonX said:
This year I seriously consider getting up a Christmas tree this time around (an abomination to do it before Dec 24 where I grew up...).
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Heck, I’m considering putting up a Christmas tree and I don’t even celebrate Christmas! I think if Biden pulls it off, I’ll do it.
 
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I think part of it is that she is mestizo. The RW likes white people, and they like the right kind of black people, but when they look at her, she is a mutt, and that makes them uncomfortable because, eww, impure blood, racial mixing. They do not want to think about what has already happened, that race has gradually blurred into, hey, goddammit, how do we divide these people out when there are so many of them now?

She is literally the face of the next century, and they are not ready for that. And her words make them face the failures of RW ideals, make them realize that their ways will not carry forward. That people will look back on the RW and say, "dumbshits".
 
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She's a threat to the GOP because they count on the democrats being boring people unable to relate to voters, widely seen –and thus disliked– as politicians. Someone young, who actually comes from the working class, intelligent, and above all, social media-savvy is a menace to their dominance of the internet politics.
 
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JayMysteri0 said:
Another reason for them to hate her
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1322941013808340993

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When they accused Biden (how does that even hold water?) of being a socialist, I didn't quite grasp why that's insulting. What's wrong with being a socialist? Countries like France and England are socialist and do very well. I think they equate it to being a Castro clone to rub the Cuban American vote the wrong way. It's pitiful but being a socialist isn't anything like Fidel.
 
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She's threatening. She's bright, tough and appeals to young people. To make matters worse, she's a woman and she embraces Socialist ideology which they automatically equate with communism. Spoiler alert, Germany is a socialist republic, for example.

She is everything they hate.

I find it particularly laughable when they attack her for things like dancing or wearing an expensive outfit. It always backfires on them spectacularly. The dance they paraded to make her look "urban" (insert a dog whistle here) turned out to be some kind of fund raising video for her university. Most of them couldn't pull off the chicken dance drunk if they tried. Then the expensive outfit criticism... from privileged, wealthy white Senators. I guess being rich is only for old white man, so how dare is she. Oh, wait... those were borrowed for a photoshoot? Well, shit. #FakeNews and #LameStreamMedia then...
 
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