Rep. Elise Stefanik Attacks Mysterious 'Pedo Grifters' For Shortage Of Infant Formula

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So a new Team what is a pedo grifter exactly???

Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.), who describes herself as “pro-life,” blamed the White House and mysterious “pedo grifters” on Friday for America’s infant formula shortage — and called for denying formula to migrant’s babies.
The “White House, House Dems, & usual pedo grifters are so out of touch with the American people that rather than present ANY PLAN or urgency to address the nationwide baby formula crisis, they double down on sending pallets of formula to the southern border,” Stefanik wrote in a tweet.

 

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You'd think that after awhile, people would start seeing the pattern of accusations here. It's basically...

If Problem X, then...

Start with the assumption that the White House has more control of our economy than it actually does.

Somehow find a way to blame this issue on cabal based pedophilia.

Throw in mention of pallets, because that's the preferred method of transportation the Deep State uses to steal from good, hard working Americans (see: Iran).

MEXICANS!

Rinse.

Repeat.
 

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The government is required by law to provide formula to the babies in its custody.

(paywall removed)

It’s pretty gross that this woman represents people in the state of New York.
 

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I want to see representatives and senators from the Democratic party calling people like Stefanik out forcefully on the floor of their respective chambers, like Jamie Raskin and Brian Schatz did about their colleagues a few weeks ago.
 

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You'd think that after awhile, people would start seeing the pattern of accusations here. It's basically...

If Problem X, then...

Start with the assumption that …

it is something RWers are already doing. "Pedo Grifters"? Let me see, who was it that was talking about a nationwide adoptable-infant shortage? Seriously, if that is not the definition of "pedogrifting", what the hell is?
 
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Did any of these so called congress critics actually talk to you know... the formula makers themselves?

Y'know like possibly see how to help solve the problem?

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No?

https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1525455621440552967/
https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1525478255175901184/

https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1525231810921127936/
https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1525234178026897409/

One of the groups mostly affected?

Some 1.2 million infants are in the WIC program, formally known as the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children. Each state has a contract with a single manufacturer. Abbott Nutrition, which is contending with a massive recall of its formula, is the exclusive provider to about half of infants in WIC.

But that isn't who is being discussed. It also isn't being discussed how with lobbying & congress we have a few companies making the bulk of formula, so if one goes down...

Who's talking with those companies and working on solutions? Hint: It's not those making it a political situation.

The US Department of Agriculture on Friday outlined the steps it has already taken to help low-income families, mainly by providing waivers to states to give parents using WIC benefits a wider array of options -- if they can find other brands on the shelves and their babies can easily switch formulas.

Authorized since February, the waivers allow families to purchase alternate container sizes, including those that exceed typical maximums, and forms of formula, as well as to buy alternate brands without doctors' notes. The flexibilities enable parents to get liquid concentrate or ready-to-eat formula, rather than just powdered.

A third type of waiver allows stores to accept exchanges of formula purchased with WIC benefits.

The agency urged all states to take advantage of the flexibilities, echoing a call from the White House on Thursday. Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack sent a letter to state health commissioners on Friday reiterating the waivers that are available.

Ah to remember the "good ol' days of a previous administration when NOT everything could be blamed on the president, and when folks like myself mentioned how with earlier president's "the buck" stopped with them. NOW those same defenders of the previous president believe "the buck does stop with the president". When did things change? :unsure: Let's hope something can be worked out soon.
 

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Before we start reading everyone, let's get this over with...

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Alright, let's move on

U.S. Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.), chair of the House Republican Conference, did a very bad tweet on Friday that basically called everyone who disagrees with her...a pedophile.

Aside from the fact that Democrats have, in fact, proposed a plan to address the baby formula shortage, the “pedo” rhetoric is not new—it’s an unhinged conspiracy theory that’s become so normalized on the Right that House Republican leadership are now casually able to call all Democrats pedophiles without consequence. Jezebel’s Kylie Cheung recently explained this phenomenon after Sen. Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) and others tried to portray incoming Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson as soft on pedophiles:
Needless to say, not all—if any, though we haven’t personally investigated—Democrats in Congress and White House are pedophiles, and it’s an objectively unhinged thing to allege on a public forum. So one of Stefanik’s constituents called her House office to ask for an explanation.

Writer Parker Molloy posted the audio of the conversation and transcribed it in her newsletter:
CALLER: She said, “The White House, House Dems and usual pedo grifters.” Now, you start the conversation pretty bad when you say, “The White House, House Dems, and usual pedo grifters.” Who are “the usual pedo grifters?”

STAFFER: So I don’t mean cut you off, I want to... Because we’ve got a few phone calls about this. First off, this is her personal Twitter. Just have to note that. And number two, “pedo” is not short for “pedophile,” it is “pedo” as in “children.” “Pedo” is, if you look it up on Google it’s-

CALLER: Yeah. I know what the word means.

STAFFER: Exactly defines to child.

CALLER: So these are people who are grifting their children? How are they grifting their children? Or are they children who are grifting?

STAFFER: No, not children who are grifting.

CALLER: So they’re not-

STAFFER: Saying people are grifting on behalf of children.

CALLER: They’re grifting on behalf of children?

STAFFER: Correct.

Stefanik’s official explanation is different: Her office told Mediaite that “Pedo grifters refers to the Lincoln Project,” an anti-Trump Republican group whose co-founder, John Weaver, allegedly “sent unsolicited and sexually provocative messages online to young men.”

First off, I just want to say that having to spin Elise Stefanik’s egregious tweets on phone calls to the people she represents sounds like, truly, the worst job ever.

Secondly, LOL, in no world could the term “pedo” be construed to mean children. It means pedophiles: people who sexually abuse children. And, as explained above, it is an increasingly common accusation Republicans are casually throwing at Democrats without any kind of evidence. The fact that Stefanik, a member of House leadership, is able to toss out this allegation just shows how far right the party has shifted.
Of course, there are actual pedophiles in this world, and many of them, unfortunately, are Republicans. An ex-Republican National Committee staffer, for instance, was just recently sentenced to 12 years in prison for trading child porn.

Needless to say: If you start calling everyone who disagrees with you politically—including the entire White House—“pedophiles,” you’re doing a lot of free PR work for actual pedophiles, who can now check the news and see that they’re in great, powerful company. Just a thing to consider.
 

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syre I mean QAnon has not used pedo to mean pedophile over and over right?

Of course they are being nonsensical. But even if you believe “grifting on behalf of children,” just think about that. People engaging in small-scale swindling not for their own benefit, but for the benefit of children. How awful of them. I mean, let the kids suffer, right?

I mean, I bet these grifters are just grifting so the children can get their third or fourth video game console - none of the grifting could possibly be happening because children would otherwise starve or lack medical care or a roof over their heads, right?

The truth of it is that everything *any* republican complains about is just projection. Election fraud: 99% of actual cases of election fraud that have been identified are MAGAs voting illegally on behalf of dead relatives or harvesting ballots. Corruption: how many Trump officials got shitcanned or indicted for corruption? How many Obama officials? Heck, same deal with Bush vs. Clinton. Pedo: seems like most republicans want to fondle young kids; this is obvious because they are so obsessed with it. They think it happens all the time because it’s something they can’t get out of their minds. ”The government wants to control our bodies with these vaccines!”: Roe v. Wade anyone?
 
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I’m not sure what the expectation is here… let babies in immigration facilities stave to death? The government has a lot of bargaining power when it comes to buying baby formula and consistently holds a stockpile of it intended for distribution. The formula is being sent to the border because that’s standard operating procedure.

That said, I find myself once again frustrated with the government in how they handle crises, especially of medical nature. To some extent that falls on Biden but in circumstances like these I don’t expect the White House to be thoroughly versed in the baby formula industry and FDA policies. The responsibility of the President is to recognize the problem and hold agencies accountable who are responsible in handling it.

Besides the dubious actions of Abbott, this largely falls on the FDA’s negligence in oversight and failure to efficiently resolve the matter. One of their responsibilities is to ensure security/availability of products they oversee including drugs and formula. This is something they routinely fail at in the pharmaceutical industry. The baby formula shortage started like two months ago and from what I can see they took little action in that time and just now are trying to find a solution. This is typical operating procedure for the FDA. Always a day late (or months) and a dollar short (or failing to bring their wallet in the first place).

I think the US needs to take a good hard look at where we get our vital supplies from, identify weak points in the supply chain, and work on measures to mitigate single point failures that lead to problems such as this. In my mind the US needs a perpetual emergency stockpile of medicines and necessities like baby formula. Typically we buy up a bunch of supplies, let them expire- flushing money down the drain, and then never replace the inventory. Instead why not buy the supplies, hold them, and then have a way of selling them back to the mfg or open market for at least what it cost- prior to expiration. That way the emergency stockpile is always full with viable goods

The other easy solution to this is to not allow 3 companies to control 98% of the market, meaning if a single company has a problem, there is automatically a crisis.

And considering the current crisis and no quick fix for likely months, why not allow emergency authorization of European baby formula. The FDA requirements for formula have long differed from those in Europe, yet babies in Europe seem to be surviving just fine. I think it’s safe to assume at this point importing it would not cause a bigger catastrophe than we already have due to nutritional content.

Don’t get me wrong, the FDA does a lot of great things. But I don’t think it’s so much to ask for them to be more proactive, efficient, and sensible in responding to issues when that is a responsibility entrusted in them.
 

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I’m not sure what the expectation is here… let babies in immigration facilities stave to death? The government has a lot of bargaining power when it comes to buying baby formula and consistently holds a stockpile of it intended for distribution. The formula is being sent to the border because that’s standard operating procedure.

It‘s a very clever political message. If there’s only so much to go around, moms are crying at bare shelves after they strike out at the fifth consecutive supermarket, why should any go to the border instead of to those moms? If babies are going to starve, why are they OUR babies instead of THEIR babies!?! The fact that it’s the law, etc., will make little impact on people who frame it that way.

It’s just another variation on the “they’re stealing our jobs” messaging. “They’re stealing our jobs” became “they’re stealing our votes” which became “they’re stealing our baby formula.”

They would be much more successful with swing voters with this messaging, probably, if they didn’t overplay it with the bizarre conspiracy theories.
 

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I’m not sure what the expectation is here… let babies in immigration facilities stave to death? The government has a lot of bargaining power when it comes to buying baby formula and consistently holds a stockpile of it intended for distribution. The formula is being sent to the border because that’s standard operating procedure.

That said, I find myself once again frustrated with the government in how they handle crises, especially of medical nature. To some extent that falls on Biden but in circumstances like these I don’t expect the White House to be thoroughly versed in the baby formula industry and FDA policies. The responsibility of the President is to recognize the problem and hold agencies accountable who are responsible in handling it.

Besides the dubious actions of Abbott, this largely falls on the FDA’s negligence in oversight and failure to efficiently resolve the matter. One of their responsibilities is to ensure security/availability of products they oversee including drugs and formula. This is something they routinely fail at in the pharmaceutical industry. The baby formula shortage started like two months ago and from what I can see they took little action in that time and just now are trying to find a solution. This is typical operating procedure for the FDA. Always a day late (or months) and a dollar short (or failing to bring their wallet in the first place).

I think the US needs to take a good hard look at where we get our vital supplies from, identify weak points in the supply chain, and work on measures to mitigate single point failures that lead to problems such as this. In my mind the US needs a perpetual emergency stockpile of medicines and necessities like baby formula. Typically we buy up a bunch of supplies, let them expire- flushing money down the drain, and then never replace the inventory. Instead why not buy the supplies, hold them, and then have a way of selling them back to the mfg or open market for at least what it cost- prior to expiration. That way the emergency stockpile is always full with viable goods

The other easy solution to this is to not allow 3 companies to control 98% of the market, meaning if a single company has a problem, there is automatically a crisis.

And considering the current crisis and no quick fix for likely months, why not allow emergency authorization of European baby formula. The FDA requirements for formula have long differed from those in Europe, yet babies in Europe seem to be surviving just fine. I think it’s safe to assume at this point importing it would not cause a bigger catastrophe than we already have due to nutritional content.

Don’t get me wrong, the FDA does a lot of great things. But I don’t think it’s so much to ask for them to be more proactive, efficient, and sensible in responding to issues when that is a responsibility entrusted in them.
This crisis is NOT the FDA’s fault. Their job is to make sure the products are SAFE. They didn’t cause any of this, and are acting as quickly as they reasonably can now to solve a problem created by others.

As mentioned above, Trump’s trade policies intentionally blocked formula from our closest neighbors.

Absurdly, provisions were added to the United States‐Mexico‐Canada Agreement (USMCA) to restrict imports of formula from Canada, supposedly because China was investing in a baby food plant in Ontario , and this new production might eventually enter the U.S. market (heaven forbid!). Thus, the provisions in the USMCA’s agriculture annex establish confusing and costly TRQs on Canadian exports of infant formula, and the United States imported no baby formula from Canada in 2021.

And we have policies that are supposedly protecting the industry by imposing 17.5% tariffs on imported formula.

Also, it’s not like the FDA just decided, on their own, to regulate baby formula. Congress did that. And… I think it’s a good idea if you care about the safety of babies.


There are many factors to this crisis. Blaming the FDA doesn’t fix anything. Long-term, we need to possibly create a stockpile, reduce tariffs, find a way to encourage foreign countries to create products that meet the FDA standards (it’s mainly labeling, but with 17.5% tariffs, they just don’t bother), and maybe think twice before we rubber-stamp every single corporate merger in America.

Here are some more facts on the causes of the problem, and what’s being done.


Finally, part of this is the same problem we had when stores ran out of toilet paper. People are hoarding.
 

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This crisis is NOT the FDA’s fault. Their job is to make sure the products are SAFE. They didn’t cause any of this, and are acting as quickly as they reasonably can now to solve a problem created by others.

As mentioned above, Trump’s trade policies intentionally blocked formula from our closest neighbors.



And we have policies that are supposedly protecting the industry by imposing 17.5% tariffs on imported formula.

Also, it’s not like the FDA just decided, on their own, to regulate baby formula. Congress did that. And… I think it’s a good idea if you care about the safety of babies.


There are many factors to this crisis. Blaming the FDA doesn’t fix anything. Long-term, we need to possibly create a stockpile, reduce tariffs, find a way to encourage foreign countries to create products that meet the FDA standards (it’s mainly labeling, but with 17.5% tariffs, they just don’t bother), and maybe think twice before we rubber-stamp every single corporate merger in America.

Here are some more facts on the causes of the problem, and what’s being done.


Finally, part of this is the same problem we had when stores ran out of toilet paper. People are hoarding.
This is when the race to rock bottom picks up speed.

Bots are supposedly being used now in buying formula online.

Yes. Bots. The things used to buy up PS5s, Graphic cards, sought after limited Adidas & Nike shoes, are supposedly being used to snatch up formula.


Dafuq?!
 

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Mothers have these thingies that make baby formula right there, no Similac factory or distribution network needed. But women are forced into situations where using those things to make formula is impractical because they have to get to work and make the money they need to pay the rent and buy the formula.

And, of course, news sources warn parents that it is dangerous to cook up your own formula because you might not get it exactly right. Nothing about maybe we should teach people how to do stuff because that would be bad for profits. We absolutely must rely on huge corporations to provide for us because that is the best way – as long as something does not break.
 

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Mothers have these thingies that make baby formula right there, no Similac factory or distribution network needed. But women are forced into situations where using those things to make formula is impractical because they have to get to work and make the money they need to pay the rent and buy the formula.

And, of course, news sources warn parents that it is dangerous to cook up your own formula because you might not get it exactly right. Nothing about maybe we should teach people how to do stuff because that would be bad for profits. We absolutely must rely on huge corporations to provide for us because that is the best way – as long as something does not break.
Even some women who have the time to breastfeed because they have accommodations at their place of employment or don't work can't sufficiently nourish their babies with breast milk for various reasons.
 

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This crisis is NOT the FDA’s fault. Their job is to make sure the products are SAFE. They didn’t cause any of this, and are acting as quickly as they reasonably can now to solve a problem created by others.

As mentioned above, Trump’s trade policies intentionally blocked formula from our closest neighbors.



And we have policies that are supposedly protecting the industry by imposing 17.5% tariffs on imported formula.

Also, it’s not like the FDA just decided, on their own, to regulate baby formula. Congress did that. And… I think it’s a good idea if you care about the safety of babies.


There are many factors to this crisis. Blaming the FDA doesn’t fix anything. Long-term, we need to possibly create a stockpile, reduce tariffs, find a way to encourage foreign countries to create products that meet the FDA standards (it’s mainly labeling, but with 17.5% tariffs, they just don’t bother), and maybe think twice before we rubber-stamp every single corporate merger in America.

Here are some more facts on the causes of the problem, and what’s being done.


Finally, part of this is the same problem we had when stores ran out of toilet paper. People are hoarding.

Define fault- no they did not create contaminated formula but they allowed this situation to get completely out of hand.

Excuse me, but where did I say the FDA should not regulate baby formula? And I never said anything about “bare shelves Biden” or alluded to such. I said he should have pressured the FDA weeks ago to come up with a solution.

If you care about the safety of babies, then maybe you should consider having the FDA do their job in an efficient and effective manner.

And for the record European formula has been illegal in the US for decades as the US and European nutritional requirements do not align. I don’t know anything about the Trump-Formula situation, but I suspect it probably has a lot to do with the 3 major formula manufactures and farmers lobbying against it. Where the formula comes from is irrelevant and FDA fulfilling their responsibility is not a political issue.

First, why did the FDA go a full 2 years without inspecting Abbott’s facility? Especially one known to have issues.

Why is it that the FDA received a 34 page whistle blower report in October 2021 alleging:
- Falsification of records
- Distributing untested formula
- Staff celebrated the FDA not finding known problems in their 2019 audit
- Improper aseptic technique
- Failing to take action to reduce defects consistent with Good Manufacturing Practices policy
- Failing to properly trace products

The facility did not have an on-site until February 2022, nearly 4.5 months later.

Also in September 2021 the FDA was made aware of an infant death possibly linked to the formula and again, did nothing for months.

And even when the bacteria was confirmed to be in the factory, it took them weeks to inform the public.

And then when the the FDA told Abbott to recall their formula and shut down the factory, they evidently had zero plan of where 30% or whatever of the country would get its formula. And this is on top of a pre-existing supply chain problem.

Now two months later the situation becomes desperate and so then the FDA realizes it needs to find a solution to this that’s faster than the months required to restart the Sturgis factory.

According to Scott Gottlieb, the former FDA head, this factory was known to have “persistent problems” that were “poorly handled” and that the FDA didn’t exert all the oversight that they could have”.

Just about every media source in the country is flabbergasted by the FDA’s repeated failures.

And if the FDA did such a good job, why have they started an investigation into themselves? Why is Congress hounding them for explanations?

This is not a controversial opinion on the slightest.

This crisis obviously stems from negligence from Abbott. But this wouldn’t have happened in the FDA provided the correct level of oversight to begin with (ie not going 2 years without an inspection). Based on other reporting, the inspections that did occur in the past were not particularly thorough. Maybe that promotes a culture of “we can get away not doing x y z”. Maybe better oversight would have caught this problem earlier and maybe the situation would be easier to mitigate.

We’re well past that point though. When the FDA was made aware of problems, they sat on their hands for months. And when the decision was made to close the factory, they evidently made zero plan deal with the consequences- in fact failed to even foresee the potential conflict (watch the CNN interview with the current FDA chief).

This performance should be absolutely unacceptable to Americans. I’m not sure why you’re trying to defend the blatant failures of this agency. If you ignore such circumstances, they are bound to repeat themselves. As I alluded to in my previous post, these shortcomings are nothing new but they never get mainstream media attention because the consequences aren’t felt by a large swath of the country. So many the silver lining is there will be improvements.
 
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