The Trump Indictment Thread

[GermanSuplex]

The RNC convention is going to be the biggest shit show the world has seen since PT Barnum. I thought “You built that” and Clint Eastwood having a conversation with an empty chair was the bottom. Man, it’s possible that after all of this, we haven’t seen anything yet.

The RNC has about two and a half months to figure out if they’re really going to handcuff themselves to this disgusting sinking anchor.

 

[Citysnaps]

Up next, Michigan!

Trump, Giuliani, Meadows are unindicted co-conspirators in Michigan fake elector case, hearing reveals

Former President Donald Trump is among several unindicted co-conspirators in the Michigan AG's case against the state's "fake electors," an investigator has revealed.

abcnews.go.com

Reading the Michigan story I see trump, Meadows, and Giuliani are listed as an unindicted co-conspirators.

A guess: Is that so that Michigan can move forward trying the 16 indicted republican fake electors as soon as possible. And then, after the Arizona trial is over, indict and try Meadows and Giuliani in Michigan?

Thoughts Cmaier ?

 

[Cmaier]

Reading the Michigan story I see trump, Meadows, and Giuliani are listed as an unindicted co-conspirators.

A guess: Is that so that Michigan can move forward trying the 16 indicted republican fake electors as soon as possible. And then, after the Arizona trial is over, indict and try Meadows and Giuliani in Michigan?

Thoughts Cmaier ?

Not sure. I haven’t read the indictment or anything. Could be that the unindicted co-conspirators didn’t commit any acts in furtherance of the conspiracy in Michigan so they think the case is weaker. Could be what you’re thinking. Could be other things as well.

 

[KingOfPain]

Now it's clear why the prosecution and Judge Engoron accepted the bond:
One of Trumps lawyers screwed up and said: Even if they cannot pay, Trump has so much assets in NY that could be seized instead.
Thus, the prosecution has been given the green light in case Trump or the bond company cannot pay.

 

[GermanSuplex]

Now it's clear why the prosecution and Judge Engoron accepted the bond:
One of Trumps lawyers screwed up and said: Even if they cannot pay, Trump has so much assets in NY that could be seized instead.
Thus, the prosecution has been given the green light in case Trump or the bond company cannot pay.

Not the best lawyers in town, but at this rate, any of them who can manage to not get indicted can at least claim that on their resume.

 

[rdrr]

Can someone explain why SCOTUS would punt the Total Immunity decision until after November, when they all seemingly don't believe in it. So why the f*****g DELAY?

 

[Renzatic]

Can someone explain why SCOTUS would punt the Total Immunity decision until after November, when they all seemingly don't believe in it. So why the f*****g DELAY?

So they can say they're not being political, maybe? I dunno.

 

[GermanSuplex]

Trump donors sure are getting their money’s worth with Alito and Thomas.

 

[Roller]

Can someone explain why SCOTUS would punt the Total Immunity decision until after November, when they all seemingly don't believe in it. So why the f*****g DELAY?

They (Trump’s water carriers on the SCOTUS) want one less pre-election trial to stand in his way. If he wins, his AG will make the Federal cases go away. And if he loses, the court will come up with a ruling that will carve out immunity for as many of the crimes he committed as President as possible.

 

[Cmaier]

Yesterday’s transcript.

https://pdfs.nycourts.gov/PeopleVs.DTrump-71543/transcripts/4-25-2024/

 

[Edd]

This bit from a Hollywood Reporter piece made me laugh.

The criminal hearing in which he’s facing 34 felony counts is not the trial we deserve. That would be either the Georgia election interference case, the federal classified documents case or the federal Jan. 6 election case (it’s so hard to choose). But perhaps it’s the trial Trump deserves, laying bare the sleazy, tawdry aspects of his existence in a manner that could potentially sway those magical swing voters who apparently live in an alternate universe devoid of moral judgement

Critic’s Notebook: Fox News Plays Knight in Shining Armor to a Beleaguered Trump-on-Trial

Donald Trump faced the first of what could be many criminal cases this week, as CNN and MSNBC covered the trial exhaustively and the usual right-wing apologists fretted about the former president's well-being.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

 

[Eric]

Yesterday’s transcript.

https://pdfs.nycourts.gov/PeopleVs.DTrump-71543/transcripts/4-25-2024/

What's your thoughts about the SCOTUS giving him immunity?

 

[Cmaier]

What's your thoughts about the SCOTUS giving him immunity?

Well, they won’t.

They likely want to make some rule like “immune if it’s in the course of duties. Now, lower court, go figure out if it’s in the course of duties“ and then the lower court will say “of course it isn’t” and then it will be appealed again, unless he becomes elected dictator and shuts it all down.

 

[Roller]

Well, they won’t.

They likely want to make some rule like “immune if it’s in the course of duties. Now, lower court, go figure out if it’s in the course of duties“ and then the lower court will say “of course it isn’t” and then it will be appealed again, unless he becomes elected dictator and shuts it all down.

I agree that's what the SCOTUS will do, as absurd as it is - most of the justices are in Trump's camp. But if they send it back to the lower court to decide what are official acts and what are personal acts, can that court's decision on each determination be appealed?

 

[Cmaier]

I agree that's what the SCOTUS will do, as absurd as it is - most of the justices are in Trump's camp. But if they send it back to the lower court to decide what are official acts and what are personal acts, can that court's decision on each determination be appealed?

Yes, and they will be.

 

[Cmaier]

Transcripts from 4/26.

https://pdfs.nycourts.gov/PeopleVs.DTrump-71543/transcripts/4-26-2024/

 

[Yoused]

Individual-ONE's legal team may be hamstrung by Individual-ONE himself, who apparently insists that they l___ his a__ constantly and are never allowed to concede the minutest flaw in him. He has no experience with criminal trials, so he cannot grasp that "I'm the awesomest" may not be the best way to sway a jury.

 

[fooferdoggie]

Individual-ONE's legal team may be hamstrung by Individual-ONE himself,

but this is the type of lawyer he wants. the yes men not the ones that are well educated. he is literally putting his future into the hands of the poorest quality representation. So ya go trump hiring these idiots.

 

[GermanSuplex]

Individual-ONE's legal team may be hamstrung by Individual-ONE himself, who apparently insists that they l___ his a__ constantly and are never allowed to concede the minutest flaw in him. He has no experience with criminal trials, so he cannot grasp that "I'm the awesomest" may not be the best way to sway a jury.

Which is interesting to see how this is going to play out, because Trump hasn’t just alleged he didn’t do anything illegal, he also denied the affairs with these women. Not “I made mistakes but am innocent of criminality”, just “Nope, horse faces, never met them, don’t know them, all lies.”

I’m really hoping this guy jumps the shark. Americans are strange, as fast as he’s sucking the oxygen out of the room, Americans also move on. I’m still not satisfied with the passiveness of liberals towards Trump’s ridiculousness.

He’s also going to have to campaign this year, and that’s not going so well either. You know Trump is struggling when you catch him pretending to interact with normal people in carefully staged events.

I heard he shit himself in that bodega in Harlem, but this time it was intentional to show his disgust at having to mingle among the normies.

 

[Cmaier]

Which is interesting to see how this is going to play out, because Trump hasn’t just alleged he didn’t do anything illegal, he also denied the affairs with these women. Not “I made mistakes but am innocent of criminality”, just “Nope, horse faces, never met them, don’t know them, all lies.”

Worse, his lawyer denied the affair in the opening statement. So now if the jury believes he had the affair, they’ll automatically believe he did all the other bad things. It’s one thing to deny everything outside of court, but to make a point of telling the jury a lie in your opening statement…