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No.
I suspect that they thought this isn't (or wasn't) serious; whites aren't supposed to do such stupid things, after all, the system protects them (whereas, if African-Americans, or Muslims, had come out with this sort of stuff, I can safely assume that the attitudes and responses of the authorities and the intelligence services would have been more than a bit different).
After all, nothing of the sort has happened since the southern states made an ass of themselves shortly before the civil war.
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I'd like to know too. No one sane in government though wanted it to be possible for Trump supporters to say they were oppressed by the deep state or whatever and so kept from exercising their right to gather peacefully to protest.
They were entitled to request permits for a protest and they did that. Chatter is chatter. Two different things.
Whether someone decided it was worth letting it play out for awhile when it started looking stormy but before it turned to storming the Capitol, good question. I read that someone flashed a stolen police badge at the door to gain initial entry and after that it was like all bets were off and the loons were in there vandalizing offices and taking selfies doing stupid tricks.
What I can't get over is how Trump has been allowed all this time to pump air into his conspiracy theories of a stolen election and a landslide taken away from him. WTF how did the rest of us not manage to convince social media and our own representatives to get Trump's lie-blasting megaphones taken away from him? "Free speech" rights would not seem to pertain at all on this matter.
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The woman who was shot did not make it. Now every person who participated in the insurgency can be charged with felony murder.
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Twitter locked his (Mr Trump's) account - for twelve hours - tonight.
This is unprecedented, but - I suspect - it is also a preemptive strike, as Twitter (and FB, and other social media platforms) will (inevitably) face questions (and eventual demands for oversight and regulation) from the EU over - not only issues of taxation - but also on issues of refusal to take responsibility for some of the extraordiarily inflammatory material they have allowed to be hosted on their platforms, stuff that has served to underime democracy.
The EU moves slowly, but - eventually - very effectively.
This is unprecedented, but - I suspect - it is also a preemptive strike, as Twitter (and FB, and other social media platforms) will (inevitably) face questions (and eventual demands for oversight and regulation) from the EU over - not only issues of taxation - but also on issues of refusal to take responsibility for some of the extraordiarily inflammatory material they have allowed to be hosted on their platforms, stuff that has served to underime democracy.
The EU moves slowly, but - eventually - very effectively.
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So inciting an armed insurrection against the Capitol of the US is what it takes to have tweets removed and an account locked.
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From a NY Times piece. A former Trump WH communcations director tried to put some conservative credentials into a clear statement to Trump supporters that the election was not stolen but simply lost, after Trump kept tweeting today about how he had won in a landslide and it was being taken away from him.
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Coming face to face with the violence they fomented, some Republicans are walking away from the bogus challenge to Biden’s election.
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Yes.
But also - fear - on the part of the social media platforms, that if they don't act, someone else (i.e. a European Government, or the EU), less enamoured of, less constrained by, considerations of the First Amendment, will act to put manners on them.
I think that the EU - and several European Governments - are positively itching, positively twitching - to put manners (and regulation, and oversight) on them.
This is a preemptive strike on the part of Twitter; If they didn't do this, they would have been hauled over the coals at parliamentary committee meetings - at the very least - at EU level, and, it is coming at national level, as well.
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Maybe I should put this in the humour thread.
https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1346983640975224835/
https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1346983640975224835/
Geez, guys. Who would've thought that our actions would have dire consequences?
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Just saw McConnells speech. "They failed to obstruct Congress." Was hoping he'd follow with "That's my job."
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These nazis, yes NAZIS, need to all be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. They're on camera and can be identified.
I remember way back at my time on MR, people said I was crazy for saying the right wing was capable of this kind of thing. Who's crazy now?
I remember way back at my time on MR, people said I was crazy for saying the right wing was capable of this kind of thing. Who's crazy now?
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Josh Hawley STILL yapping about challenging the results... but in Pennsylvania, not Arizona? This guy needs to F off PERMANENTLY for continuing to challenge this after the violence. He is insisting on the myth that voter fraud is a problem. This guy should be censured just for the picture we saw today, but then he has the f-ing balls to act all high and mighty? Those protesters are people HE stoked and riled up. Shame on this traitor.
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Agreed. He needs to be censured.
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Trump needs to be removed from office. NOW. Not two weeks from now on Inauguration Day, but RIGHT NOW. He is guilty of sedition, of inciting a riot, of causing at least one death and heaven knows how many injuries..... The man is incapable of governing a country, and as we have seen, has failed at doing so. He should have been locked up a long time ago but was allowed to remain in office even as we all could see and hear that something is very, very wrong with him.
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