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THE PROBLEM??
If they don’t like the election outcome, they claim fraud just like they did this year based on their big fat fib, but unlike this year they will be able to appoint cronies to void the election, that’s how. The only reason that did not happen this year was because the independent election board told them there was no fraud. Next time look out, our Democracy will be flushed, without a doubt.

Exactly. In 2020 they cried “fraud fraud!” without evidence but they had no power to invalidate the results they claimed were fraudulent. In future elections, they will have that power. Look at what happens in countries where they invalidate election results. It’s not pretty.
 

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No, it should be a national mask mandate, and a vaccine mandate too. There is no “freedom” to infect other people... just like there’s no “freedom" to drive drunk, fire guns randomly around the neighborhood, etc, etc. Does a local school board member in rural Texas know more about infectious diseases than the CDC?

Well neither Abbott or Desantis has anything to do with that. And Biden has already admitted he doesn't have that power.

However, the examples you just posted, are state laws, not federal.
 

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Well neither Abbott or Desantis has anything to do with that. And Biden has already admitted he doesn't have that power.

However, the examples you just posted, are state laws, not federal.

 

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Well neither Abbott or Desantis has anything to do with that. And Biden has already admitted he doesn't have that power.

However, the examples you just posted, are state laws, not federal.
Abbott signed a frick’n Executive Order banning mask mandates and trying to ban required proof of vaccination, which is directly related because he is also not insisting on vaccines.

As reported by National Public Radio, the good news in Texas the business organizations not wrapped up in politics are mandating vaccines, or proof of vaccines, Live Nation who does concerts across the country, the Austin Music festival, and Houston Methodist Hospital has fired nurses who refused vaccines just because they did not want a vaccine. These would be the absolute worst people to have working in a COVID ward.

Businesses have a certain reality and pragmatism based on business reality, while the numskull politicians just feed their red headed step children sweet little poisons because this is what the children want. 👀
 
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Abbott signed a frick’n Executive Order banning mask mandates and trying to ban required proof of vaccination, which is directly related because he is also not insisting on vaccines.

As reported by National Public Radio, the good news in Texas the business organizations not wrapped up in politics are mandating vaccines, or proof of vaccines, Live Nation who does concerts across the country, the Austin Music festival, and Houston Methodist Hospital has fired nurses who refused vaccines just because they did not want a vaccine. These would be the absolute worst people to have working in a COVID ward.

Businesses have a certain reality and pragmatism based on business reality, while the numskull politicians just feed their red headed step children sweet little poisons because this is what the children want. 👀

As I posted, he should not have done that. Leave it up to the local governments to do it.

The Feds have no power to enforce a mask mandate except on federal land. Which they have. Or unless Congress approves it. Which they won't.
 

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Again Texas says hold my beer.

If This Texas Abortion Ban Takes Effect, The State Will Pay Citizens To Enforce It​

A Texas law banning abortion at six weeks is set to go into effect in just a few days. And while the ban will make it nearly impossible for women to get abortions in the state, the six-week ban — abortion opponents’ garden-variety tactic of late — is not the most concerning part.
What makes this Texas statute particularly troubling is that it deputizes private citizens to actively seek out and sue people “aiding or abetting” women who are attempting to get abortions in the state of Texas. If you successfully sue that person — whether it’s an abortion provider, a pregnant woman’s friend, or even the rideshare driver who dropped her off at a clinic — you receive a $10,000 bounty.
 

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Again Texas says hold my beer.

If This Texas Abortion Ban Takes Effect, The State Will Pay Citizens To Enforce It​

A Texas law banning abortion at six weeks is set to go into effect in just a few days. And while the ban will make it nearly impossible for women to get abortions in the state, the six-week ban — abortion opponents’ garden-variety tactic of late — is not the most concerning part.
What makes this Texas statute particularly troubling is that it deputizes private citizens to actively seek out and sue people “aiding or abetting” women who are attempting to get abortions in the state of Texas. If you successfully sue that person — whether it’s an abortion provider, a pregnant woman’s friend, or even the rideshare driver who dropped her off at a clinic — you receive a $10,000 bounty.
What could go wrong?
 

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I swear it’s a competition between Texas and Florida on who can come up with the stupidest and dangerous laws.

From what I understand, anyone can sue anyone if they believe they've enabled an abortion, right? It doesn't require that you have a personal stake in the matter, only that you have a suspicion of involvement?

...so how can someone be rewarded a settlement if they haven't been damaged by the actions of the person they're suing?
 

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From what I understand, anyone can sue anyone if they believe they've enabled an abortion, right? It doesn't require that you have a personal stake in the matter, only that you have a suspicion of involvement?

...so how can someone be rewarded a settlement if they haven't been damaged by the actions of the person they're suing?
This is full-on Nazi crap. Reporting your fellow citizens to the government and getting paid for it.
 

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Again Texas says hold my beer.

If This Texas Abortion Ban Takes Effect, The State Will Pay Citizens To Enforce It​

A Texas law banning abortion at six weeks is set to go into effect in just a few days. And while the ban will make it nearly impossible for women to get abortions in the state, the six-week ban — abortion opponents’ garden-variety tactic of late — is not the most concerning part.
What makes this Texas statute particularly troubling is that it deputizes private citizens to actively seek out and sue people “aiding or abetting” women who are attempting to get abortions in the state of Texas. If you successfully sue that person — whether it’s an abortion provider, a pregnant woman’s friend, or even the rideshare driver who dropped her off at a clinic — you receive a $10,000 bounty.
Pregnant women who do not want give birth, will be much more cautious about who they confide in. If your single and accidentally get pregnant it’s not something you advertise anyway. My guess such a law could be challenged in court. Buy beyond all that, this is the sad state of priorities of the GOP, hold power at any cost and have a surplus of Koolaid ready to hand out. :oops:
 

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Even if Abbott never sees it, I'm proud of my big brother telling him off in the Austin Statesman.

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The fact that you seldom know you’re pregnant before 6 weeks just doesn’t register with them. So maybe we need to open up D&C clinics so that women can go once a month right after ovulation … just to make sure.
It absolutely registers to them. That’s the entire point. They want abortion to be completely illegal, but they assume such a law would not pass constitutional muster. So they put in a law that makes abortion de facto illegal.
 

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They want abortion to be completely illegal, but they assume such a law would not pass constitutional muster.
Wouldn’t it? In the eyes of this Supreme Court, it might. They just refused to hear a last-ditch challenge to the law. 😡

Texas 6-week abortion ban takes effect after Supreme Court inaction

 

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Wouldn’t it? In the eyes of this Supreme Court, it might. They just refused to hear a last-ditch challenge to the law. 😡

Texas 6-week abortion ban takes effect after Supreme Court inaction

The GOP is the American Taliban.
 
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