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It is literally theft. If I can take your money for no justifiable reason, giving you nothing in return, and get away with it, is it your position that I ought to just do that simply because I can? Does the law define what is ethical?
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It is entirely possible that there is a reason why you haven't or couldn't run for office (or The Office as you wish).
I better not react to the posts here.
For me, it is upsetting.
Our views differ and I have already expressed my opinion in a long-long thread over there.
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No problem - I hope there are other threads with areas of discussion you’re more into - if not, feel free to start any. We can’t talk about politics ALL the time...
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More than theft. It's robbery, because the rules are enforced by armed forces.
I noticed an interesting trend on lawfulness vs ethics on Reddit. I commented on a car crash where a camry cut the a guy with dashcam off on a Virginia highway bridge. The dashcammer anticipated the maneuver by the camry and instead of slowing down to just let the idiot in, he accelerated and when impact was imminent nudged his car slightly towards the camry ending up pitting it. Camry flipped and crashed into a "bystander" SUV which also flipped.
I pointed out how horrible the behavior of the dashcam guy was who clearly had 2 opportunities to avoid the crash but decided to escalate, and a vocal minority of redditors told me to fuck off because what the guy did was legal (not even sure about that). Some people have no grasp of how bad a society is where people do all the legal bad stuff to one another.
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Rather than concern yourself with blame, you can highlight this every time it happens without directly applying judgement to it. This spotlights such behavior without projecting partisan views on it.
My previous comment wasn't meant as a jab. As for me, it's unlikely I would be elected. Among other things, I often respond with very long, detailed answers to questions.
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My bed, most probably I suffer from post-MR-PRSI-Syndrome.
In this very case I expressed my views in long discussions over there. I don't see any sense repeating my arguments here. And to be honest, I am not in a mood to do so.
Where there are more than two people, there are more than two opinions. And that should be respected.
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The difference between MR and here is that the vast majority of people are willing to reason, discuss in a truly interactive fashion and trolling is practically absent because unlike MR it comes with no reward (i.e. getting the responder suspended or confirmation bias if the troll post gets moderated).
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I hear you.
That is why I am here.
In my case this topic is an old hat.
That is why I am here.
In my case this topic is an old hat.
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I'll just leave it here to signal where the current bar resides.
JayMysteri0
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As with all things Boebert, take with large amounts of salt
Boebert's Democratic upbringing questioned
Lauren Boebert, the Republican candidate for the 3rd Congressional District, may not have grown up in the downtrodden Democratic household that she’s so often been claiming.www.gjsentinel.com
lizkat
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"How soon we forget" whoever may have helped lift us from poverty or shown us a way to better ourselves.
At least the damn cheese was there at the end of the queue Boebert claims she was waiting on.
Guess she didn't live someplace like NYC when Giuliani was mayor with his get-off-the-dole gimmicks like scheduling benefits recipients for simultaneous required meetings in two different boroughs, one for drug-testing and one for "a benefits review".
No cheese at the end of lines from which those folks might otherwise have scored enough stuff off to grow up and be able finally to look down their noses at what had kept them from starvation, eh?
Right. Bootstrapping time, folks! Oh well. Maybe a bunch of them just started selling crack cocaine to get by. But hey, Rudy was ready to back up the cops and fill the prisons with whoever went down the crack-vending path to get food on the table.
So Ms. Boebert is far luckier than she seems to recall, cheese or no cheese handouts along the way, which of course might be down to her inability to recall circumstances that were possibly other than she claims to remember.
At least the damn cheese was there at the end of the queue Boebert claims she was waiting on.
Guess she didn't live someplace like NYC when Giuliani was mayor with his get-off-the-dole gimmicks like scheduling benefits recipients for simultaneous required meetings in two different boroughs, one for drug-testing and one for "a benefits review".
No cheese at the end of lines from which those folks might otherwise have scored enough stuff off to grow up and be able finally to look down their noses at what had kept them from starvation, eh?
Right. Bootstrapping time, folks! Oh well. Maybe a bunch of them just started selling crack cocaine to get by. But hey, Rudy was ready to back up the cops and fill the prisons with whoever went down the crack-vending path to get food on the table.
Meanwhile if your preferred variety of cocaine was the powdery kind favored by certain investment bankers, celebrity entertainers, etc., somehow all those lines in the criminal code about that level of scheduled drugs often enough got misplaced. It took decades for Congress even to begin to address that disparity in our justice system, and even so the ensuing adjustments still essentially overlook how children can get driven to the illicit drugs trade in the first place: simple hunger as a result of rules meant to keep people off "the dole". The same rules often result in evictions from public housing that private landlords can learn of and so can mean semi-permanent homelessness. And if you're homeless, staying in school to graduation becomes a monumental challenge.
So Ms. Boebert is far luckier than she seems to recall, cheese or no cheese handouts along the way, which of course might be down to her inability to recall circumstances that were possibly other than she claims to remember.
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The veracity of her statement is irrelevant. It's the absurdity of a statement of how she used ""soCiAliSm"" to grow to be the person we should vote for so she can prevent others to receive similar benefits.
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Yes, loopholes are written in the laws pushed by lobbyists. But once they are there, shouldn't the companies be allowed to use them?
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That capitalism paid for.
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Are you suggesting that "socialism" is OK as long as capitalism pays for it?
Do you think that closing loopholes is like a prime responsibility of a lawmaker?
(You used the term loophole, suggesting it's not intended to be there).
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You need elements of both. It is a sliding scale and I would prefer we remain a bit more on the Capitalism side.
Yes. They are the only ones who can. Sometimes loopholes are put in on purpose and sometimes they are just a result of everything not being considered. They all need to be closed.
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That taxes paid for.
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Only once companies are deprived of any right to be classified as legal “persons”.
A company, ipso facto, cannot bear conscience.
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I'm glad, we agree on both.
I'll add that I consider Capitalism an amplifier, which...if we manage to destroy the ecosystem we still depend on, then it will have been the very downfall of humanity. Our responsibility is to keep the "good" things amplified by capitalism, and concurrently dampen the "bad" stuff. I'll also say one of the most baffling things for me in the USA is the comfort level with trade cartels (like ISPs). They are one of the most anticapitalistic things you can image,.
Also, if a lawmaker's duty is to close loopholes, we should elect the ones who have no financial conflict of interest to keep old ones open or open new ones. Which is a prime issue in politics in general.
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