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They just released a photo of Clarence and Ginni Thomas visiting the January 6 rally…

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Was shocked when I read this line in a Fox News article…

Trump, who had unsuccessfully urged the governor and other top Republican officials in the state to overturn the results, returned to Georgia last autumn and again in late March to campaign against Kemp.


Well, you think that would still be much larger news outside of the leftist circles. But even Kemp can’t really come out swinging. He’s ahead in the polls, but Stacy Abrams will not be kind to him, and it should be interesting to see what role Trump plays. He does not like Kemp. And where does election fraud fit into all of this? And why are there no widespread cries of fraud in the primaries this year, even though the elections are being conducted virtually the same way?
 

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What'd she do?
She dared to speak

Stacey Abrams is right: Georgia's Republican governor, Brian Kemp, has helped turn his state into one of the worst places to live in the country.

Abrams, the Democrats’ presumptive nominee to face off against Kemp for the governorship this fall, made her declaration during a fundraiser in Georgia on Saturday. And although she predicted her words would be taken out of context and used against her, she was quite clear about the things Kemp has done to make her state a demonstrably bad place to call home.


“I am tired of hearing about how we’re the best state in the country to do business when we are the worst state in the country to live,” Abrams said, according to audio published by The Gwinnett Daily Post.

“Let me contextualize,” she added. “When you’re No. 48 for mental health, when we’re No. 1 for maternal mortality, when you have an incarceration rate that is on the rise and wages are on the decline, then you are not the No. 1 place to live.”

She went on to say: “Georgia is capable of greatness, but we need greatness to be in our governor’s office. We need someone who actually believes in bringing all of us in there together.”

It didn’t take long for Republicans, including Kemp, to do just as Abrams predicted and condemn her remarks:

That's what passes for discourse nowadays. Just throw a comment out there, no context, no explanation. Which means it's open ended & can be reconstructed anyway a person likes if the response they get isn't favorable. It's also wonderful if you don't want to actually be factual, just throw crap out there & runaway. Occasionally passed off as supposed engagement. Too often, if context isn't provided, it's for good reason. On the other side is taking comments laid out, and deliberately & directly going to misconstruing them to feign some faux outrage.

We saw it play out with Hilary, and all the ginned up outrage. Then when 1/6 happened, pretend like her comments were never uttered.
 
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She dared to speak




That's what passes for discourse nowadays. Just throw a comment out there, no context, no explanation. Which means it's open ended & can be reconstructed anyway a person likes if the response they get isn't favorable. It's also wonderful if you don't want to actually be factual, just throw crap out there & runaway. Occasionally passed off as supposed engagement. Too often, if context isn't provided, it's for good reason. On the other side is taking comments laid out, and deliberately & directly going to misconstruing them to feign some faux outrage.

We saw it play out with Hilary, and all the ginned up outrage. Then when 1/6 happened, pretend like her comments were never uttered.

I can't say you're wrong. She did provide context, but she still should have known better.

That line will be used in commercials all over the place leading up to election day. She had little to gain and a lot to lose with that comment. And she has tried to walk it back a bit so either she or someone in her campaign knows it was a mistake.
 

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I can't say you're wrong. She did provide context, but she still should have known better.

That line will be used in commercials all over the place leading up to election day. She had little to gain and a lot to lose with that comment. And she has tried to walk it back a bit so either she or someone in her campaign knows it was a mistake.

Democrats are horrible with providing out of context comments and labeling. I usually don't actively search out news and mostly just use Flipboard which aggregates news. Fox is the only service I have blocked on it, and that out of context statement was a headline all over the place.

I don't know if she is considered progressive, but the establishment, both politicians and media, would rather help Trump burn the country to the ground than let a progressive wave take over. It doesn't take much to figure out why. Most of these blowhards in their class will do perfectly fine under a rightwing authoritarian government. They'd probably even be allowed to continue their charade to continue the illusion of democracy. They'll still get to collect their paychecks for getting nothing done.
 

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I can't say you're wrong. She did provide context, but she still should have known better.

That line will be used in commercials all over the place leading up to election day. She had little to gain and a lot to lose with that comment. And she has tried to walk it back a bit so either she or someone in her campaign knows it was a mistake.
No. There is no better. That’s my point.

Abrams could have said, “I am used to working with republicans to get things done.” And someone would have grabbed a lemon with one, and with the other hand reached into their panties to give themselves the mother of all emotional wedgies. Crying she said “republicans used get things done.”

The horror.

That’s why context upfront at the time is important. It highlights the dishonesty in the conversation of others. What’s even worse is that it is so commonplace now, she accurately predicted the faux outrage.

Nowadays for some political discourse is about making a sound bite from something someone said. Then pretending to be upset by the sound bite and not what was actually said.

Which again is why context provided at the time of a comment is so important. So you can call someone on their B.S.
 

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A quick reminder that when a certain party makes accusations, it's more likely a confession of sorts.



LANSING, Mich. — Michigan’s elections bureau said late Monday that five Republican candidates for governor, including two leading contenders, failed to file enough valid nominating signatures and should not qualify for the August primary.

The stunning recommendations immediately transformed the race in the battleground state and dealt a major blow to former Detroit Police Chief James Craig, who has led in primary polling despite campaign problems, and businessman Perry Johnson, who has spent millions of his own money to run. Democrats had challenged their petitions, alleging mass forgery and other issues. Another GOP candidate, Tudor Dixon, had also contested Craig’s voter signatures as fake.
The bipartisan, four-member Board of State Canvassers will meet Thursday to consider the elections bureau’s findings of fraud across five gubernatorial campaigns. The Republican candidates, who are vying to face Democratic Gov. Gretchen Whitmer in November, could end up going to court if they do not make the ballot.

Bureau staff also determined that three other lesser-known GOP candidates — Donna Brandenburg, Michael Brown and Michael Markey — did not turn in enough valid signatures.

If the canvassers agree with the recommendations, the 10-person field of political newcomers would be cut in half to five. Those qualifying for the ballot would be Dixon, a former conservative TV news host who netted the DeVos family endorsement earlier Monday; chiropractor and grassroots activist Garrett Soldano; wealthy self-funding businessman Kevin Rinke; real estate broker and anti-coronavirus lockdown activist Ryan Kelley; and pastor Ralph Rebandt.
 

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We are ruled by a minority. Can we possibly change that? This author posits that our constitution is set up to keep it that way.


…the senate, the electoral college, the Supreme Court and its lifetime appointees — functioning as intended. The dilution of votes in cities is the point, and so long as the minority remains in power, it will continue to make laws (and judgments) that protect against its erosion. Voter registration campaigns are not enough. Reciprocal gerrymandering strategies, not enough. If, in a state like Idaho, you go through the initiative process to try and pass legislation (like Medicaid expansion) that’s actually popular, then the legislation will rewrite the laws to prevent it from ever happening again.
 
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